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marty davidson said:
it is better without them
Really, how?


From what I can make out from your opening post, you don't like the way England think they've won it before it's started?

Well, it's called a whole nation of football-minded, and non-football fans suprisingly, come together to get behind the team. England, the origin of football. Football runs through everyone's veins in this country.

England have world class players. They deserve to be at a world stage like the world cup and the Euros.

How can missing a major championships to make them qualify as the worlds best players - like Rooney, Gerrard, Owen, Hargreaves, Ferdinand, Terry, Cole and the other young players - if they aren't there?

World's best players should be playing on the worlds greatest stage.
 

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:eek: thats cause you are a jealous irishman . the only time your lot ever did any good it was managed by an englishman and full of english players . you know that the english should win everything they enter and its only dodgy officials that stop us dominating every tournament . embrace the mother country like the other colonies:D :D :eek:
 

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worlds best players :confused: and they dont qualify :confused: they are good individual but not team playing. my country has no world class player but a good team. i think this difference is what makes england lose. anyway we have good euro so far and no england so its ok.
 

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sianluvsunited said:
worlds best players :confused: and they dont qualify :confused: they are good individual but not team playing. my country has no world class player but a good team. i think this difference is what makes england lose. anyway we have good euro so far and no england so its ok.
Exactly. You are 100% right, Sian.

Rooney, Gerrard, Ferdinand are amongst the best players in the world. However, it is hard to accomodate them within a team. Especially that Lampard/Gerrard situation!

I like Romania. Hope they go through, although it would be tricky. Mutu is a class act.
 

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adrian mutu is great player for us. he miss a penalty to make us qualify but we dont mind this. he does not do this on purpose and we have faith he will carry us past olanda in next game. if england player miss a penalty then the newspaper men give them so much heart ache and this finishes off the team altogether. this is why they have problems too.
 

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sianluvsunited said:
worlds best players :confused: and they dont qualify :confused: they are good individual but not team playing. my country has no world class player but a good team. i think this difference is what makes england lose. anyway we have good euro so far and no england so its ok.
having good players dont make you good team :rolleyes:
it is about the one who leads the players
and do you call england managers a managers they are muppets
do you call england a team
do you call the racial idiot who slides on the rain a player
do you think terry is a captin
do you like to have a captin who cant stand still
-lets all lught at england-
-haha haha
 

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sianluvsunited said:
i dont understand what you say here. what is the racial man sliding on the rain ? i dont understand any what you say sorry.
i mean j.terry
he is racial
and he slept off when he took the penilty in the final
he is overrated lazzy bum who dont deserve to be a captin
 

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For starters...Abo be quiet :rolleyes:

I can see why marty started this thread cos a fellow Irishman, we take
great pleasure in watching England fail :D

But if Im honest, I was disappointed England didn't qualify....
The tournaments are much better with England involved.
we know the players and want the United lads to do well.
Id hate England to win a major a major tournament cos we would
NEVER hear the end of it :rolleyes: ....
but England are always good for having some epic games where they
lose out on penalties in the end :p , and THATS compulsive viewing.......

England have some class players and should really be there...but I feel they
can do well at the next World Cup...semi's or better...
 

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Jazz 16 said:
For starters...Abo be quiet :rolleyes:

I can see why marty started this thread cos a fellow Irishman, we take
great pleasure in watching England fail :D

But if Im honest, I was disappointed England didn't qualify....
The tournaments are much better with England involved.
we know the players and want the United lads to do well.
Id hate England to win a major a major tournament cos we would
NEVER hear the end of it :rolleyes: ....
but England are always good for having some epic games where they
lose out on penalties in the end :p , and THATS compulsive viewing.......

England have some class players and should really be there...but I feel they
can do well at the next World Cup...semi's or better...
Defintly agreed, also I am not English so sometimes NO OFFENCE TO ANYBODY I SOMETIMES just sometimes.. Like to watch England lose.
 
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