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Any chance of you good people signing this petition please

I know it says FC United but its about more then just the club

How many of you have been pissed off with having to travel to a game that has had its time changed to an early morning KO just to make some TV company a bit richer

Not only will the fans be boycotting none of the board will be at the game neither

Agree or not with the formation of the club this is something else a group of people who are willing to try and make a stand against something that can only benefit fans of all football clubs

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/changing_kickoff/
 

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Done...........:)

Anybody else who goes to sign this be warned !!!

After you click submit signature a page appears asking you how much you would like to donate in order to keep ipetitions running.......

This is not obligatory and you dont have to donate OK.

If you like to see your name is on the list click 'back' from the donation page and click 'names' on the top toolbar........

I had a couple petitions I make on here and people got confused with this.......x
 

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Thanks
Teach me not to mess with you;)
Ha ha.....;)

I tell all the guys because when I made my petition many people signed this but then they thought they had donated cash or felt they had to donate cash and gave me a hard time, lol.....

But now they know its safe to sign this xx
 
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Statement from FSF,taken from the official site...

The Football Supporters Federation have backed the club's call for supporters not to atttend FC Uniteds away game at Curzon Ashton on 29 December.

Mark Longden, spoke on behalf of the FSF:

“It's like the thin end of the wedge, but in reverse, if you like – because it's certainly a first to see a football club representing the rights of its supporters by standing up against a TV company, and it sets a very positive precedent."

“We all recognise that TV has a major part to play in the game of football, but the balance has swung way too far in the TV companies favour - and too far away from the match-going, admission paying, regularly attending football supporter."

“That balance may take a long time to address, but I believe this is at least a step in the right direction – and, as the ancient Chinese proverb says, even a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.â€

Full story here:

http://www.fsf.org.uk/

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SALFORD RED said:
and, as the ancient Chinese proverb says, even a
journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.â€
Correct......

Confucious said this......

He also said.......

"By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest;
Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the
bitterest."

"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it."

"I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand."

"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life."

"I do not want a friend who smiles when I smile, who weeps when I weep, for my
shadow in the pool can do better than that."

Anyway.........

Good luck FC with this.....

FC United is a bit like Ricky Hatton toilet roll..........

It's rough and it's tough and it takes no sh*t :p
 

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Im afraid I dont understand. Are you boycotting FC United of Manchester? Or Manchester United FC? Or any Premier League game? Or televised games?
 

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Does anyone know why games are moved for TV instead of TV just showing a game at 3pm on a Saturday? Is it purely driven by ratings i.e. other football fans won't watch the game because they're busy watching their club?

The number of games moved for TV these days is ridiculous. Man United have hardly had any matches at 3pm on Saturday this season.
 
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This might help explain better.....


League change Curzon kick-off time for TV - CLUB STATEMENT

We have been informed that the League Management Committee has switched the kick off time of our fixture against Curzon Ashton from 3pm to a lunchtime kick off to accommodate the game being televised on the League's Internet TV channel.

FC United and Curzon Ashton had informed the League prior to the League Management Committee meeting that both clubs would be opposed to the switch but the League have chosen to ignore our views. We have written to the League and asked them to reconsider but they are standing by their decision.

When our club representatives discussed the new NPL TV deal with League officials over the summer we received assurances that no game would be moved for TV without the agreement of both participating clubs. The League also circulated all clubs in November with reassurances that Saturday games would not be televised live.

As a result of these assurances not being maintained and that the League Management Committee have gone against the expressed wishes of both clubs, the board of FC United and club officials will not be present at the fixture. In line with that position the board requests that supporters exercise their power to influence decisions, by also not attending. For those that do not and that seek an alternative it is hoped that an ‘event' at our reserve fixture against Eagle Sports at Abbey Hey on the same day at 2pm will be held.

An FC United board spokesman said:

“TV exposure and the revenue it generates are important to football. There are times when moving a fixture is unavoidable and you only have to look at Harrogate Railway's recent televised FA Cup game to see that in some cases it is even desirable. But to renege on previous assurances, seek the views of clubs about a change to the kick off time and then disregard the views of the competing clubs and its supporters in this manner is unacceptable.â€

“The board of FC United is asking supporters to show their opposition to the League's decision by not going to the game against Curzon. It is regrettable that Curzon Ashton may suffer financially from the consequence of this change to the kick off time, especially given their support in opposing the switch. However the board feel that it is important that a message is sent to the League that the views of the match-going fan must take precedence and those fans should not be inconvenienced in favour of a potential Internet audienceâ€

“All supporters are free to make up their own mind as to whether they support the call not to attend but the board of FC United believes that this particular issue is intrinsically linked to the disillusionment with top-flight football shared by many fans, that led to the formation of our club and as such a strong message needs to be communicated to the League./b] â€
 

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Does anyone know why games are moved for TV instead of TV just showing a game at 3pm on a Saturday? Is it purely driven by ratings i.e. other football fans won't watch the game because they're busy watching their club?

The number of games moved for TV these days is ridiculous. Man United have hardly had any matches at 3pm on Saturday this season.
i no one of the reasons is that so places othere than britain its a better time for them to watch the game wich i think is totally rong
 

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SALFORD RED said:
This might help explain better.....


League change Curzon kick-off time for TV - CLUB STATEMENT

We have been informed that the League Management Committee has switched the kick off time of our fixture against Curzon Ashton from 3pm to a lunchtime kick off to accommodate the game being televised on the League's Internet TV channel.

FC United and Curzon Ashton had informed the League prior to the League Management Committee meeting that both clubs would be opposed to the switch but the League have chosen to ignore our views. We have written to the League and asked them to reconsider but they are standing by their decision.

When our club representatives discussed the new NPL TV deal with League officials over the summer we received assurances that no game would be moved for TV without the agreement of both participating clubs. The League also circulated all clubs in November with reassurances that Saturday games would not be televised live.

As a result of these assurances not being maintained and that the League Management Committee have gone against the expressed wishes of both clubs, the board of FC United and club officials will not be present at the fixture. In line with that position the board requests that supporters exercise their power to influence decisions, by also not attending. For those that do not and that seek an alternative it is hoped that an ‘event' at our reserve fixture against Eagle Sports at Abbey Hey on the same day at 2pm will be held.

An FC United board spokesman said:

“TV exposure and the revenue it generates are important to football. There are times when moving a fixture is unavoidable and you only have to look at Harrogate Railway's recent televised FA Cup game to see that in some cases it is even desirable. But to renege on previous assurances, seek the views of clubs about a change to the kick off time and then disregard the views of the competing clubs and its supporters in this manner is unacceptable.â€

“The board of FC United is asking supporters to show their opposition to the League's decision by not going to the game against Curzon. It is regrettable that Curzon Ashton may suffer financially from the consequence of this change to the kick off time, especially given their support in opposing the switch. However the board feel that it is important that a message is sent to the League that the views of the match-going fan must take precedence and those fans should not be inconvenienced in favour of a potential Internet audienceâ€

“All supporters are free to make up their own mind as to whether they support the call not to attend but the board of FC United believes that this particular issue is intrinsically linked to the disillusionment with top-flight football shared by many fans, that led to the formation of our club and as such a strong message needs to be communicated to the League. â€
Thanks mate.
 

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Thanks to everyone who signed the petition

looks like the boycott couldn't have gone any better with an almost 100% non turn out from FC fans an estimated 20-30 kids and or families there in a crowd of 297
Compared to the estimated 600 at the FC reserve game

Curzon Ashton 0 (0) – (1) 2 FC United of Manchester
Att: 297………………….........S. Carden 32
…………………………….........Nugent 64

On a landmark day in the history of FC United – a club whose fans are famed for making a huge racket wherever they go – it was the silence that rang out around the Tameside Stadium that spoke loudest.
-In a well organised and brilliantly executed boycott, only 20 or so away fans were visible among the 297 in attendance, with an estimated 1,500 refusing to trek to Ashton for the puzzling 12.45pm kick-off arranged at the whim of an internet television channel and without the approval of both clubs.

A few miles away at the home of Abbey Hey - just as captain Rob Nugent was powering home United’s second, building on Simon Carden’s first-half tap in - about 500 reds were watching the first-place reserves outfit beat nearest league rivals Club AZ.

It meant that for the first time in the club’s short history, as the first-team shirts put on an impressive display on the field, there was no singing, no merriment, no smiling young faces or joy expressed off it.

The mood of the day was reminiscent of the emotional Sunday back in May 2005 when 100 or so ‘Big United’ fans dressed in black to mourn the loss of their club to current owner Malcolm Glazer, but those taking part will this time know that, unlike on that dismal Cardiff afternoon, they’ve won their battle.

The Curzon fans, who have seen their savvy team rise to the top of the table in a promising five months, seemed to have no problem with having the league puppet them about on their Saturday afternoon.

One middle-aged man queuing up for a much-needed steaming cup of coffee at half time seemed to sum up the apathy, or just downright stubbornness, of his fellow Curzon supporters.

“What’s the point in staying away? It won’t achieve anything. People need to realise it’s not the 1960s anymore. You just have to get on with it,” he said.

But, according to some of those who do have the power to change the status quo, that doesn’t appear to be the case.

The magnitude of the boycott certainly seemed to home with today’s grim-faced match commentator John Warrington, head of In Vision, who said he is confident such a situation will not be allowed to take place in future.

Speaking at half-time, he said: “It is hugely disappointing that the attendance is so low for everyone involved, especially Curzon Ashton, who have lost out on a big slice of revenue.

“When the board of FC United announced that they would be in favour of a boycott of this game, I was in Las Vegas and I was disappointed that Andy Walsh was not prepared to wait just one more day until I got back to discuss the issue with me so we could have talked it through.”

He added: “As it is, I cannot see any club being shown more than once before the play-offs on a Saturday.

“But when there are concerns of the change of times, we will certainly be prepared to hold discussions with the league in order to find a solution.”

Indeed, Mr Warrington admitted he did ask the league if they would move the fixture back to 3pm, with In Vision showing the game in full at 5pm. The league refused.

League secretary Phil Bradley was at today’s game, but wasn’t too prepared to make himself available for a comment. He left right on the final whistle.

Curzon chairman Harry Galloway said that, while he expected a low attendance, it was still a blow for his club to miss out on an estimated £10,000 windfall from a bumper attendance.

FC United of Manchester general secretary Lindsey Robertson, meanwhile, said she was delighted with the success of the boycott – and that, according to Mr Warrington, it could avoid kick-off times changing in future without agreement of the clubs involved.

She said: “It just shows how strongly the supporters feel about this matter. I know it is hard for them because they want to support the team, especially in such a big game, but it’s important we stand up for what we believe in.

“If what has happened today provokes discussion about whether this will happen again, it has been worth it and it will show how essential it is for supporters to have a voice.”
 

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Does anyone know why games are moved for TV instead of TV just showing a game at 3pm on a Saturday? Is it purely driven by ratings i.e. other football fans won't watch the game because they're busy watching their club?

The number of games moved for TV these days is ridiculous. Man United have hardly had any matches at 3pm on Saturday this season.
It is illegal to show football games at 3pm on British TV. This is part of an agreement to protect lower league clubs, as the main concern is that attendances at these clubs would go down if a match was on tv at the same time.
 
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