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Ferguson and Queiroz face charges for post-game rants


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Monday March 10, 2008
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Sir Alex Ferguson could face charges over his outburst after defeat to Portsmouth. Jason Cairnduff/Action Images



Sir Alex Ferguson is almost certain to face a disciplinary charge from the Football Association after his criticisms of the referee, Martin Atkinson, turned into a rant against Keith Hackett, the man in charge of the Professional Game Match Officials Board.
Carlos Queiroz, the No2, is also likely to be charged after describing Atkinson as a "robber" and insisting that a new rule should be introduced allowing referees to be replaced during games. "I feel sorry that the game has moved to the situation where referees deserve red cards," he said. "This referee deserves somebody to come to the side of the pitch after five minutes, give him a red card and pull him out of the game. That is my opinion of this robber."


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The FA applies disciplinary charges if there is an allegation of impartiality and it is difficult to see how the United pair can expect to get away with their remarks. Ferguson claimed Portsmouth were encouraged because they knew the referee "was on their side" while Queiroz was equally forthright. "What we cannot accept are referees who watch only one side."
Their anger stemmed from Atkinson's decision not to award a penalty after Sylvain Distin barged Ronaldo. "I just cannot explain that decision," Ferguson said. "Managers get sacked because of things like that and he [Atkinson] is going to referee next week? It's ridiculous."

"The referee is a disgrace," Queiroz added. "We did our job, Portsmouth did their job but the referee didn't. Sadly, we still have referees who don't understand what is the right thing in the game and who they should be protecting."

That was a reference to Ronaldo, who claimed he was "scared sometimes to do skills" because of the treatment he receives. "I don't blame Portsmouth," said Ferguson. "If you're going to come here and you know you're going to get off with these things . . . I think Keith Hackett's got a lot to answer for in this country. I don't think he's doing his job properly. He's got his favourites, as everyone knows. You look at the refs we get away from home - Steve Bennett, Mark Clattenburg, Phil Dowd, all these people - we never get them at home, always away, and I think that tells you everything about him [Hackett]. Clattenburg - oh, Jesus, God."

Ferguson felt Lassana Diarra should have been sent off and, ignoring the fact that Wayne Rooney committed the most dangerous tackle in the game, Queiroz referred to Eduardo da Silva's recent injury for Arsenal and then questioned why Diarra had been allowed to "elbow" Ronaldo. "Then Diarra becomes a saint," he said of the man of the match. "This is why the [Martin] Taylors of this game can survive and some of the best players are out of the game."

"This is a matter for the Football Association," said a spokesman for the PGMO. "As a point of information, Keith Hackett has no responsibility for the selection of match officials for FA Cup games." Hackett was not available for comment.

First of all - comments about Diarra are idiotic to say the least when knowing that Rooney should have been off for that tackle on Kranjcar ! These kind of statements make them look like sore loosers, even if taking into account a fact that they HAVE something to be mad of. there were plenty of talking points and Diarra is certainly not one of it , not after rooney's tackle ! Second of all - I'm wondering - whoever does something wrong on and off the pitch - gets punished , but it seems that only refs are untouchables ! I mean they can have their own match with those stupid decisions and yet avoid punishement ! It's ridiculous to say the least ! I agree with queroz on this one - if 4th official sees that the ref has lost it - he should replace him ! simple as ! Refs should be subjects not objects in the game
 

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I can see Fergie getting a touchline ban for his remarks. I hope I'm wrong though because during his last touchline ban (when we played West Ham and Brum) we didn't play very well.
 

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Carlos Queiroz has issued an apology for comments he made about a Birmingham City player following United's FA Cup defeat to Portsmouth.

The Reds' assistant manager was voicing his concern about referees not protecting skilful players when he referred to Martin Taylor, the Birmingham defender sent off for a foul on Arsenal striker Eduardo in a much-publicised incident last month.

Queiroz has since reviewed his remarks. He told ManUtd.com today:

"I am deeply sorry if my comments, made when emotions were running high after the Portsmouth game, were misconstrued.

"Everyone at Manchester United knows that Martin Taylor is not that type of player.

"All I sought to say was that in the modern game, because of its speed, we need to have more vigilance on mistimed tackles.

"I apologise for any upset my remarks may have caused.”
 
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I can see Fergie getting a touchline ban for his remarks. I hope I'm wrong though because during his last touchline ban (when we played West Ham and Brum) we didn't play very well.
i think from soccernet or some other sites i read that the worse punishment would be a fine but no touchline bans
 

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You can see why they said those things, heat of the moment and all that
and I fully expect Fergie to get a ban *yawn* though he was right in what he
said. Im very disappointed that Queiroz mentioned Taylor. That was a low blow
in my eyes. I know he apologised but it wasnt so long ago that we were moaning
about Wenger for doing the same.
 

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why is it always fergie that gets in trouble ? i always see other managers goin mad at something they don't like (wenger and what not) but its always fergie that ends up in the media.
 

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Jazz 16 said:
You can see why they said those things, heat of the moment and all that
and I fully expect Fergie to get a ban *yawn* though he was right in what he
said. Im very disappointed that Queiroz mentioned Taylor. That was a low blow
in my eyes. I know he apologised but it wasnt so long ago that we were moaning
about Wenger for doing the same.
FIFA OR UEFA, I'M NOT SURE WHICH BODY ACTUALLY STATED THAT ( I think it was Uefa , because the name Blatter rings in my ears ) Taylor's tackle had nothing to do with sports especially football and that they would go through his case to decide wheter they'll increase the ban... in the future they'r thinking about increasing the lenght of a ban untill the injured player recovers ! Anyway - i'm quite happy with their involement in Taylor's case. I know you all think they have something against you and I'm not going into that, I'm just happy that they think as myself.
 
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"A new rule should be introduced allowing referees to be replaced during games. "I feel sorry that the game has moved to the situation where referees deserve red cards," he said. "This referee deserves somebody to come to the side of the pitch after five minutes, give him a red card and pull him out of the game".

What a stupid idea.

If a ref is having a bad game he gets replaced by another one.

Then the replacement also has a bad game, what then ?
Does he get replaced ? How many refs will be needed at every game ?

Besides there are not enough qualified referees in this country to
have two or more at each game.

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SALFORD RED said:
"A new rule should be introduced allowing referees to be replaced during games. "I feel sorry that the game has moved to the situation where referees deserve red cards," he said. "This referee deserves somebody to come to the side of the pitch after five minutes, give him a red card and pull him out of the game".

What a stupid idea.

If a ref is having a bad game he gets replaced by another one.

Then the replacement also has a bad game, what then ?
Does he get replaced ? How many refs will be needed at every game ?

Besides there are not enough qualified referees in this country to
have two or more at each game.

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it's not stupid at all - you should get only 1 sub per game - just like in the game - if all of your subs underperform - you can't sub them again !
 

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Fergie was right. How Martin Atkinson could miss the penalty I have no idea. He was about 10 yards away with a clear view.

Diarra could have been sent off for persistent fouling.

I don't think the penalty was as clear as people say. Baros hung his leg for TK to catch him. When Ronaldo does that, he gets slated for it.

And even if the referee gave the penalty, it was never a red. Anderson and Rooney were on the line.

Mind you, Carlos seems to be getting Sir Alex's bad habits. First he tries to take on the Middlebrough bench in the FA Cup replay at Old Trafford last year, then he slates the ref. Go Carlos! lol.

And Fergies seems to be the only manager to get a touchline ban. He will get another one, I can tell you, and I bet he ends up missing the Liverpool game. Did he miss the last Liverpool game too?

I just hope assistants can't get touchline bans too... :confused: lol.
 

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fergie threw his toys out like a petulant toddler . the only reason carlos is in frame is fergies bloody childishness in not speaking to the bbc .

he is the finest manager in the world but a hot headed buffoon sometimes .

it is one of the things we have to put up with .

he almost refused to talk to pravda (mutv) once .

you cannot accuse a ref of being with the other team and not get serious punishment in my book .
 
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