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OK...I'm starting to get seriously aggitated with the FA.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/13/manchester-united-arsenal-alex-ferguson

• Emirates season-ticket holder chairs disciplinary panel
• Manager's programme notes toned down by David Gill


Sir Alex Ferguson's sense of grievance with the Football Association has been exacerbated by the discovery that one of the men who banned Patrice Evra for four matches recently is an Arsenal season-ticket holder.

Ferguson, the Guardian can reveal, felt strongly enough to express his displeasure about the way the case was handled in the original draft of his programme notes for Manchester United's game against Chelsea on Sunday, only for his comments to be toned down after the intervention of the club's chief executive, David Gill.

Nicholas Stewart QC chaired the four-man independent disciplinary panel appointed by the FA that investigated Evra's scuffles with the Chelsea groundsman Sam Bethell after a match at Stamford Bridge last April. The panel held the France left-back largely responsible in a verdict Ferguson later described as being one of the worst he had known in his 22 years at Old Trafford. "Of all the things the FA has done to this club over the years, that was one of the big shocks," said Ferguson.

While there is no question of Stewart's integrity or professionalism, Ferguson has strong reservations about a supporter of one of United's major rivals being involved, on the basis that there could be allegations of a possible conflict of interest.

Ferguson's notes on the Evra case were edited down to a *paragraph which stated: "I am still shocked by the four-game ban handed out to Patrice following the incident at Stamford Bridge that saw him at odds with one of their groundsmen."

Although Gill shares Ferguson's disquiet, he does not have his manager's famous desire for confrontation, and his own position on the board of the FA may have contributed to him not wanting to inflame an already tense situation. How Ferguson feels about his notes being changed is unclear, although it is believed to be unusual in the extreme.

Despite their private misgivings, United have opted against making a complaint to the FA. The club had described Evra's punishment as "excessive" and "extremely harsh" and said the reasons for banning Evra were "flawed in many respects". Of Stewart's appointment, one well-placed source said: "They [the FA] at least should have let us know before the case was heard. If that had happened we could have pointed out our concerns."

Despite what Liverpool's manager, Rafael Benítez, has said over the past few days, Ferguson's belief is that the FA is historically tougher on United than other clubs. The Evra case has strengthened his opinion, even though the club decided not to appeal on the grounds "the focus of the whole squad needs to be on matches and not bureaucracy". United may consider objecting if Stewart is appointed to any future cases involving their players.


Whether that will carry any sway with the FA is debatable. Stewart is a specialist in sports cases and has worked for the FA on various other matters. He is highly regarded within Soho Square and his directory notes, at Ely Place Chambers, describe him as "a charming man and a safe pair of hands" with "a reassuring manner and a great ability to put everyone at their ease". Stewart had not been aware of Ferguson's anger but declined to comment when the Guardian contacted him. The FA has also chosen not to comment.

There is, however, strong support for Stewart within Soho Square. Colleagues have pointed out that he is far from the only person involved in the FA's disciplinary processes to have an affiliation to a particular club. Lord Triesman, the FA's chairman, is a Tottenham fan, for instance. To Ferguson's occasional irritation, Brian Barwick, until December the organisation's chief executive, is a *Liverpool fan. The other people who heard Evra's case were Barry Bright, the chairman of the FA's disciplinary committee, Roy Carter, from the West Riding FA, and David Pleat, the former Luton Town and Tottenham Hotspur manager.
 

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I'm not too sure what the take on it is in England but here in Ireland there has been a general consensus that whoever the England captain play's for he and his team in general get away with murder .
For years when Robbo was captain for England and United he got away with some crazy stuff without being punished . Same when Shearer took over and now its John Terry's and Chelsea's turn to get the preferential treatment .
Do we all think if Rio had been appointed team captain for England by Capello then we would be having this conversation , I don't think so .
I might be just slightly paranoid but thats how I've always seen how the F.A. do business . The problem with the F.A. is that there are too many ego's to be pampered .
 

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I'm not too sure what the take on it is in England but here in Ireland there has been a general consensus that whoever the England captain play's for he and his team in general get away with murder .
I have to agree with that part.

It's the same here in Scotland. Barry Ferguson is Scotland captain, and so get's away with murder and I think it is the case in England as well. And Graham Poll's comments about Terry a couple of weeks ago sound suspicious to say the least.

But, as for the story, it seems that the more stories that come out really make me hate them even more.
 

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I opened this in tabbed browsing went on the other tab went away for a while and it said, "Ferguson fumes over Arse" in the top corner. I was like....wha the hells that lol. Had completely forgotten.
 

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I opened this in tabbed browsing went on the other tab went away for a while and it said, "Ferguson fumes over Arse" in the top corner. I was like....wha the hells that lol. Had completely forgotten.
haha typical :p

and as for this sure it was a little harsh and hard done on us but evra has surved his time were not going to get it back so why argue about it?

imo david gill shouldnt be on the FA board or whatever he is i beleive it should be made up to totally unbiased people who have no real links to teams in the top flight

it would stop stupid people like rafa getting there feathers in a fluff about wouldnt it?

and if i remember rightly that dein bloke who was on the board before gill was corrupt or somthing hence why he stepped down?? correct me if im wrong
 

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Sir Alex Ferguson's sense of grievance with the Football Association has been exacerbated by the discovery that one of the men who banned Patrice Evra for four matches recently is an Arsenal season-ticket holder.

Ferguson, the Guardian can reveal, felt strongly enough to express his displeasure about the way the case was handled in the original draft of his programme notes for Manchester United's game against Chelsea on Sunday, only for his comments to be toned down after the intervention of the club's chief executive, David Gill.

Nicholas Stewart QC chaired the four-man independent disciplinary panel appointed by the FA that investigated Evra's scuffles with the Chelsea groundsman Sam Bethell after a match at Stamford Bridge last April. The panel held the France left-back largely responsible in a verdict Ferguson later described as being one of the worst he had known in his 22 years at Old Trafford. "Of all the things the FA has done to this club over the years, that was one of the big shocks," said Ferguson.

While there is no question of Stewart's integrity or professionalism, Ferguson has strong reservations about a supporter of one of United's major rivals being involved, on the basis that there could be allegations of a possible conflict of interest.

Ferguson's notes on the Evra case were edited down to a paragraph which stated: "I am still shocked by the four-game ban handed out to Patrice following the incident at Stamford Bridge that saw him at odds with one of their groundsmen."

Although Gill shares Ferguson's disquiet, he does not have his manager's famous desire for confrontation, and his own position on the board of the FA may have contributed to him not wanting to inflame an already tense situation. How Ferguson feels about his notes being changed is unclear, although it is believed to be unusual in the extreme.

Despite their private misgivings, United have opted against making a complaint to the FA. The club had described Evra's punishment as "excessive" and "extremely harsh" and said the reasons for banning Evra were "flawed in many respects". Of Stewart's appointment, one well-placed source said: "They [the FA] at least should have let us know before the case was heard. If that had happened we could have pointed out our concerns."

Despite what Liverpool's manager, Rafael Benítez, has said over the past few days, Ferguson's belief is that the FA is historically tougher on United than other clubs. The Evra case has strengthened his opinion, even though the club decided not to appeal on the grounds "the focus of the whole squad needs to be on matches and not bureaucracy". United may consider objecting if Stewart is appointed to any future cases involving their players.

Whether that will carry any sway with the FA is debatable. Stewart is a specialist in sports cases and has worked for the FA on various other matters. He is highly regarded within Soho Square and his directory notes, at Ely Place Chambers, describe him as "a charming man and a safe pair of hands" with "a reassuring manner and a great ability to put everyone at their ease". Stewart had not been aware of Ferguson's anger but declined to comment when the Guardian contacted him. The FA has also chosen not to comment.

There is, however, strong support for Stewart within Soho Square. Colleagues have pointed out that he is far from the only person involved in the FA's disciplinary processes to have an affiliation to a particular club. Lord Triesman, the FA's chairman, is a Tottenham fan, for instance. To Ferguson's occasional irritation, Brian Barwick, until December the organisation's chief executive, is a Liverpool fan. The other people who heard Evra's case were Barry Bright, the chairman of the FA's disciplinary committee, Roy Carter, from the West Riding FA, and David Pleat, the former Luton Town and Tottenham Hotspur manager.

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The ban was excessive and I think this is the reason why it was excessive. :mad:


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