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Well you can't say the Glazers haven't invested in the future of Man U judging by the amount spent already this summer and of course the quality of the signings made, but what does this mean for the fans.
Ticket prices have already gone up, on average since they took over, by £100 and on top of that you have to commit to buy tickets for the cup competions in advance. Merchandise, catering and progs etc have all increased too.
How much as fans are we able or willing to pay to see the best players in the world. Make no mistake the Glazers will want to recoup their investment, pay off their initial debt and make a profit so more increases in prices has to be expected.
This means your grass roots fan will end up watching United on Sky just like was warned when they first took over.
So with all that in mind what do you think of the Glazers HIT or MISS?
 

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Although he's put the club in debt and raised prices, it's just about patience. This man is just as rich as Roman Abrahmovic so once he becomes more comfortable and we become more successful, he'll be willing to back the club more financially. He's a businessman and will make himself and the club alot of money, as well as backing the manager's transfer kitty.
 

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well erm even though they bought debt along with them, i am still glad they have come bcz evn tho they are here we still aint gt the biggest debt in the prem...that crown belongs to Arsenal which mke si tmre sweet :p...i think for a season
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what they were getting into and now they are fully confident in their purshase and will therefore inject money where as Abramovich splashed the cash and now he has spent it he is havind second thoughts now but he cant get it bak
 

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Definate hit. I, as im sure everyone else was, was worried at the start. But he has stuck to his word and provided the funds for these big transfers. The manager has nothing bu good words for him and thats good enough for me!! Long may it continue.......
 

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But my point is that with this increase spending comes an increase in expenditure for the fans. It's not Glazer who's paying for the transfers its the Man United supporters don't forget that. The increase in capacity from 56000 to 76000 has generated more cash yet still there is an annual inrease on season ticket prices. After having my season ticket for 22years I had to let it go this season because I simply couldn't afford it anymore. The average fan is being priced out of Old Trafford and end up supporting there team in front of the TV.
He bought the club with loaned money, not his own and he's paying for that debt with the fans money, not his own. Yes funds have been made available for transfers but funds were made available before they arrived, remember Veron, Rooney and Ferdinand to name a few. MISS
 

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they will be a hit as far as they dont poke their american noses into the internal matters of united.....like roman abrhomovich did with chelsea....
 

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But my point is that with this increase spending comes an increase in expenditure for the fans. It's not Glazer who's paying for the transfers its the Man United supporters don't forget that. The increase in capacity from 56000 to 76000 has generated more cash yet still there is an annual inrease on season ticket prices. After having my season ticket for 22years I had to let it go this season because I simply couldn't afford it anymore. The average fan is being priced out of Old Trafford and end up supporting there team in front of the TV.
He bought the club with loaned money, not his own and he's paying for that debt with the fans money, not his own. Yes funds have been made available for transfers but funds were made available before they arrived, remember Veron, Rooney and Ferdinand to name a few. MISS
Clubs should be run as businesses... businesses make money so they can invest in new businesses and provide a return to the owners. As fans, our return is trophies.

My heart says that pricing the average fan out of tickets is sad. My head says that if that extra $$$ is turned into intelligent signings, more trophies, more TV $$$, then that is a good thing, yes?

The problem that Chelsea has is that they have not begun to recoup the initial investment yet, and the cash flowing in does not cover the outflow. Roman is going to get sick of kicking in $70M every year.

The Glazers were smart businessmen in that they used OPM (other people's money) to fund a venture that has been pretty successful so far.

It's easy to see which approach has the highest level of sustainability....

I give them a hit. Because they will protect their investment.

As a side note, the Tampa Bay Bucs, from the 1970s to about 1995, were the worst team in the league. I mean, every year. Dismal. After the Glazers bought them, they invested in a coach/manager and players that turned the team around and won a championship. And with the coaching staff they have, they'll win more.

One more thing: most businessmen fund their ventures with a majority of debt. The Glazer takeover was so public that this was highlighted in the press. But that is no different from owners of most clubs.

I'm sure the Villa and Liverpool purchases were funded by debt as well.
 

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Chelsea, in my opinion are the most hated team in the Premiership because they found a new concept of getting success and trophies, that's why every team in the league backed Manchester United to take the league title from them and Chelsea were whining and whinging about how everyone backed and hoped Man Utd would win it this year, and see Mourinho very down, getting into deep water with the owner and making outrageous remarks about Sir Alex and Ronaldo.

I wouldn't like to be a team that is greedy for success, Manchester United have won titles and cups through winning games, sponsorships, gate reciepts, I'd hate us to become more like Chelsea you know, spolit and greedy, but we aren't and we have conquered footballs everest, beating a team to the title who have more financial power than we do, to date.

Players want to wear the shirt and badge at this club and play infront of 75,000 people. Players who join Chelsea are only in it for the millions. Our players have way more passion than Chelsea's players because they love playing for an illustrius and fantastic club like MUFC.
 

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Chelsea, in my opinion are the most hated team in the Premiership because they found a new concept of getting success and trophies, that's why every team in the league backed Manchester United to take the league title from them and Chelsea were whining and whinging about how everyone backed and hoped Man Utd would win it this year, and see Mourinho very down, getting into deep water with the owner and making outrageous remarks about Sir Alex and Ronaldo.

I wouldn't like to be a team that is greedy for success, Manchester United have won titles and cups through winning games, sponsorships, gate reciepts, I'd hate us to become more like Chelsea you know, spolit and greedy, but we aren't and we have conquered footballs everest, beating a team to the title who have more financial power than we do, to date.

Players want to wear the shirt and badge at this club and play infront of 75,000 people. Players who join Chelsea are only in it for the millions. Our players have way more passion than Chelsea's players because they love playing for an illustrius and fantastic club like MUFC.
What about the Glazers though. Hit or Miss?
 

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Clubs should be run as businesses... businesses make money so they can invest in new businesses and provide a return to the owners. As fans, our return is trophies.

My heart says that pricing the average fan out of tickets is sad. My head says that if that extra $$$ is turned into intelligent signings, more trophies, more TV $$$, then that is a good thing, yes?

The problem that Chelsea has is that they have not begun to recoup the initial investment yet, and the cash flowing in does not cover the outflow. Roman is going to get sick of kicking in $70M every year.

The Glazers were smart businessmen in that they used OPM (other people's money) to fund a venture that has been pretty successful so far.

It's easy to see which approach has the highest level of sustainability....

I give them a hit. Because they will protect their investment.

As a side note, the Tampa Bay Bucs, from the 1970s to about 1995, were the worst team in the league. I mean, every year. Dismal. After the Glazers bought them, they invested in a coach/manager and players that turned the team around and won a championship. And with the coaching staff they have, they'll win more.

One more thing: most businessmen fund their ventures with a majority of debt. The Glazer takeover was so public that this was highlighted in the press. But that is no different from owners of most clubs.

I'm sure the Villa and Liverpool purchases were funded by debt as well.
What you say can't be denied they are obviously very astute business people and I don't fear for the clubs welfare. I am not a Glazer hater and the latest acquisitions are not only a great investment for the club but an exciting prospect for the fans. I can't wait to see them and am already counting down the days to the start of the season. At the same time I'm disappointed because my chances of watching them live has gone for the some time.
This year you had to commit to, on top of your season ticket (£750), to all cup games at O.T. This means that if United are successful in the cup and get home draws it could cost another £300+ on top if you go to the cup games or not. Whilst that shows great business sense it also shows a lack of regard and a 'taking for granted' of the fans. I believe the Glazers have the interests of United at heart but unfortunately the interests of the supporter have been forgotten and probably lost forever.
 
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