Football Hooligans.......spellbound said:Sorry for being ignorant but why are these guys prosecuted?
Not according to the CCTV images Mr.....mactheconny said:Allow me to answer your questions Carly
I am running the fund, I am in charge of the paypal account. The money will be dispensed to the families of the four lads in accordance with their wishes. They are in discussion this weekend in what they wish to use the money for, be it legal expenses or flights to visit their loved ones, pay domestic bills, whatever. You will know what happens to the money as we are setting up a website to keep everyone informed, also running totals are being posted on several forums.
Seems to me they got on a bus, were attacked by the Italian police with batons whilst lying defenceless on the ground, and arrested and prosecuted because they were the easiest pickings available as scapegoats. How do I know this? Because I was there.
Don't sit behind your monitors judging others, when you are not privvy to all the facts. They are not football hooligans, unless the blind branch of the mibs have now staked a claim as top firm in Manchester. You come across as typical New Age Fans. Now you can either contribute or not, I couldn't care less, but don't judge me or other lads who love football, love United, and want to help our fellow reds out.
Who made assumptions ?mactheconny said:I've no problem with questions, I do have a problem with people who should know better making assumptions and then publishing them on a public forum
I understand this of course....Mark The Man United said:Carly, you're entitled to your opinion and entitled to spend your money as you please. However one thing you have to realise is that when English fans travel abroad you don't just have the local hooligans to deal with but also the local Police. They will never assist you when you're in trouble and will always come down very hard on you once they assume you are "English Hooligan". English Police will always protect foreign fans however we recieve very little. That's why I will NEVER travel to Turkey, Italy, Spain or anywhere in Eastern Europe to watch united.
I assume you come from the same place the others did.....but no matter it's no big deal.dreadedred said:Are you addressing me here.
If you are please press the quote button in my post when you are then I know that you are addressing me.
I am only pointing out a few facts about what it can be like for an away match going red. As I am sure that the match going admin on here are well aware of, are'nt they. It can be a very dangerous place out of cyber world, and if it teaches youngsters on here to be a little aware of this fact all the better as it may stop them from getting assaulted or worst, as you did or as you say you did when you went with your family to a match in Belgium. If you have sorted anything out with Mr Swann, great all the more money going into the cause eh. As for poeple of my forum calling you a slag, which forum is this and what gives you the impression that I have anything to do with it.
They are setting up a website apparently - be nice to have the link for this as soon as it is donedreadedred said:I think Mr Swann maybe able to help me out on this one. Over to you Mr Swann, if you can't do it now, you are intouch with the poeple who know where these funds will be going, I believe.
........dreadedred said:You used the quote button, that's better, you learn quickly Grasshopper.
So you assume that I come from a place where other posters come from, correct me if I am wrong but is this site not in the public domain. You assume that those in jail in Rome are "Hooligans" but when explaind to you by a few that were there and by the "In Law" (best way to describe Mr Swann), you see the bigger picture and even want to drop all your morals and help in some way or other.
My work here is done.
SALFORD RED said:RD, the people organising this are well known reds, well known at OT, well known at aways. Real names, addresses and phone numbers held by lots and lots of other well known long standing reds throughout the country and abroad.
I will certainly vouch for them and even go as far as putting it into writting here. That should anyone get scammed, ripped off etc i will personally repay that person out of my own pocket, in fact i will double the amount.