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nabcake said:
wait..he retired? lol
No he is still plying his trade in Argentina.
He is at Estudiantes now, which was his first club and by
all accounts he is playing very well.
Things didnt work out for him at Old Trafford but he was still
a great player, especially at Lazio and Sampdoria and of course
for his country. He had a few great games and many other not so
great ones but he was still a class act.

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Just found this...nice read:

It has obstacles to be overcome. It has talent. It has heart and soul. The saga of Juan Sebastian Veron's progress in the Copa Libertadores is currently the most gripping story in South American football.

Veron now plays in Argentina with his first club Estudiantes

He could have stayed in Europe, but he chose to go back to Argentina and round off his career with his first love, Estudiantes of La Plata.

At the end of 2006, he carried them to the domestic title, their first since 1983.

But then came the problems. The team was broken up and Veron clashed with the directors.

He could have gone to the United States - a tempting offer was on the table - but he decided to patch up his differences with Estudiantes and lead them into the Libertadores.

After all, his surname and the club are synonymous with the competition.

Veron's father was the star player when Estudiantes came from nowhere to win three titles in-a-row in the late 60s.

Even one title with Veron junior is going to be an uphill task. There are stronger squads in the field and Estudiantes are struggling to find the right blend.

They are trying to play with three strikers - always difficult with slow centre backs who drop deep and leave the midfield with acres of space to cover.

Just turned 33, Veron has been working prodigiously hard.

But because the team are all stretched out it is hard for him to play his most effective game - exchange short passes to suck in the opposition and then ping out a long diagonal ball to the flanks.

With the collective balance not right, Estudiantes had one point and not a single goal from two of their six group games. And it was going to get worse.

Why English crowds seldom saw Veron at his best is not easy to explain

Last Wednesday, they played the crunch third match, away to Danubio of Uruguay. After 25 minutes Estudiantes had Alayes, one of their lumbering centre backs, sent off.

They were already a goal down, with Veron partially at fault. At a corner, he lost the man he should have been marking, Irala, who powered a header through the defender on the near post.

There seemed no way back. Veron was straining too hard, giving the ball away as he looked to make up for his error. But in the second half the tide began to turn.

Estudiantes had taken impressive away support to Montevideo. Their fans kept up an almighty racket, and the atmosphere they created brought out the best in the team's star player.

Forced to chase the game, even with a man down Estudiantes accepted the risk of the counter attack and played higher up the field.

It brought Veron closer to the strikers, and as he found his range he started to slip passes through to centre forward Lazzaro, who wasted the chances.

And so Veron had to score himself.

A penalty was given for holding on one of his viciously whipped free kicks. It was not the clearest spot-kick ever seen, but it was just reward for pressure exerted - and it still had to be converted.

This was a vital moment. The team had gone four hours without finding the net. A miss would almost certainly condemn them to defeat and leave them on the verge of elimination.

Up stepped Veron to send the keeper the wrong way and thump the ball confidently home.

An away draw might not have seemed a bad result after playing for 65 minutes with 10 men.

But now Veron was inspired and, with four minutes to go, he produced one of those little cameos of midfield generalship which, rarely seen in England, have illuminated the game in both Italy and Argentina.

He picked up possession on halfway, turned and played up to the striker, raced forward to receive the return, drew the defence and slipped a pass inside the left back for Perez to cut inside and win the game - top quality passing and movement.

Why English crowds seldom saw Veron at his best is not easy to explain. Perhaps his clubs failed to keep him fit enough. Perhaps he was not always well used - played at times with his back to goal, for example. Perhaps it was just bad luck.

But maybe the key is that he was unable to do what Osvaldo Ardiles managed with such success at Tottenham - forge an emotional connection with his new surroundings.

Because his love for Estudiantes seems to give Veron a third lung and a heart big enough to take on the world

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and he was really overrated in Argentina squad - i've been following them sonce...well since i started following football and he hasn't been so influental - especially at the WC 2002 where he was their worst player and a captain ! a chocker
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