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Whats everyone's opinion on him? Personally I don't like him, and I'll tell you exactly why.

Although he is fairly competent shot stopper, and can come for crosses, he is too rash for my liking. A bit like Ricardo, he seems to come out, then think about it when it's far too late.

The penalty he conceeded against Arsenal was unfortunate, although he did make up for it with a very good save. You'd have thought it would have served as a warning for the future, but no. He rashly came out against Portsmouth, in the cup, and conceeded an almost identical penalty, which sent us crashing out.

Then, against Blackburn he was lucky NOT to conceed a penalty for coming flying out and clattering the Blackburn centre forward, possibly Santa-Cruz.

The worrying thing for me is that VDS is coming to the end of his career with United, and there is a distinct possibility that he could be thrust into the number 1 slot.

I remember the days of dependable back-up goalkeepers with Van Der Gouw, Les Sealey, etc. We need a return to that scenario ASAP.
 

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Whats everyone's opinion on him? Personally I don't like him, and I'll tell you exactly why.

Although he is fairly competent shot stopper, and can come for crosses, he is too rash for my liking. A bit like Ricardo, he seems to come out, then think about it when it's far too late.

The penalty he conceeded against Arsenal was unfortunate, although he did make up for it with a very good save. You'd have thought it would have served as a warning for the future, but no. He rashly came out against Portsmouth, in the cup, and conceeded an almost identical penalty, which sent us crashing out.

Then, against Blackburn he was lucky NOT to conceed a penalty for coming flying out and clattering the Blackburn centre forward, possibly Santa-Cruz.

The worrying thing for me is that VDS is coming to the end of his career with United, and there is a distinct possibility that he could be thrust into the number 1 slot.

I remember the days of dependable back-up goalkeepers with Van Der Gouw, Les Sealey, etc. We need a return to that scenario ASAP.
agree. good stop-stopper, not convincing whenever he comes out from his goal.
i just hope foster can live up to expectations.
 

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Even Ben Foster.

Although I've never seen anything to suggest he's not United class, I've yet to see anything to prove he IS United class.
 

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As far as I can see, Ben Foster is the man set to take over from VDS when he decides to call it a day at United.

As for Kuszczak, I feel that he will probably remain as number two at United. It has already been stated that he is a good shot stopper, but he is prone to make a rash decision which may prove costly, e.g. Portsmouth.

I would like to see him stay at United as an understudy to VDS for now, and then Foster in the future. Because apart from Chelsea and us, I can't think of many sides that have two real quality goalkeepers, which proves that it is hard to keep two top 'keepers happy.
 

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i think pig is a good number two in as much as he would be happy being a benchwarmer for years . foster would be a better no 1 imho
 

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RememberTheName said:
Whats everyone's opinion on him? Personally I don't like him, and I'll tell you exactly why.

Although he is fairly competent shot stopper, and can come for crosses, he is too rash for my liking. A bit like Ricardo, he seems to come out, then think about it when it's far too late.

The penalty he conceeded against Arsenal was unfortunate, although he did make up for it with a very good save. You'd have thought it would have served as a warning for the future, but no. He rashly came out against Portsmouth, in the cup, and conceeded an almost identical penalty, which sent us crashing out.
Then, against Blackburn he was lucky NOT to conceed a penalty for coming flying out and clattering the Blackburn centre forward, possibly Santa-Cruz.

The worrying thing for me is that VDS is coming to the end of his career with United, and there is a distinct possibility that he could be thrust into the number 1 slot.

I remember the days of dependable back-up goalkeepers with Van Der Gouw, Les Sealey, etc. We need a return to that scenario ASAP.
Hes a very good goalkeeper.

He is rash at times, but I feel he will learn with experience.

Imo, hes a very good goalkeeper to have as no 2. He is reliable as a no 2, and I have no problems with him being our no 2.

Granted he isn't as good as Foster, but not many goalkeepers are who we could realistically have as back-up. Foster is going to be World Class and will succeed VDS.

But PIG should stay, for the reasons above.

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I've also got to disagree with that point. He came out and won the ball that time.

That penalty was actually a dive by the Arsenal player if you saw it in slow mo

That was rash, despite Baros knowing what he was doing, but he had to come out and try something. But you can't just blame him for us crashing out vs Pompey. We should of had a penalty ourselves, and had enough chances to win
 

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There is no better selection of goalies like ours. Van der Saar has been excellent, Kuszack usually does well and we've got Ben Foster. no need to worry.
 

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kuz is a wild keeper who is a amazing shot stopper but one thing is for sure he is terrible at coming out for crosses so in my eyes he will be ben foster's number 2
 

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He'll never be United's number one! Foster has a serious chance but he's gonna have to be immense cos we all know about fergies patience with goalkeepers!
 

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Hes a very good goalkeeper.

He is rash at times, but I feel he will learn with experience.

Imo, hes a very good goalkeeper to have as no 2. He is reliable as a no 2, and I have no problems with him being our no 2.

Granted he isn't as good as Foster, but not many goalkeepers are who we could realistically have as back-up. Foster is going to be World Class and will succeed VDS.

But PIG should stay, for the reasons above.

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I've also got to disagree with that point. He came out and won the ball that time.

That penalty was actually a dive by the Arsenal player if you saw it in slow mo

That was rash, despite Baros knowing what he was doing, but he had to come out and try something. But you can't just blame him for us crashing out vs Pompey. We should of had a penalty ourselves, and had enough chances to win
I'm not so much blaming him for the loss to Pompey. The footballing gods were against us that day. However, he is a bit rash when coming out. I thought Ricardo was a decent enough goalkeeper, just prone to conceed daft penalties.
 

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Whats everyone's opinion on him? Personally I don't like him, and I'll tell you exactly why.

Although he is fairly competent shot stopper, and can come for crosses, he is too rash for my liking. A bit like Ricardo, he seems to come out, then think about it when it's far too late.

The penalty he conceeded against Arsenal was unfortunate, although he did make up for it with a very good save. You'd have thought it would have served as a warning for the future, but no. He rashly came out against Portsmouth, in the cup, and conceeded an almost identical penalty, which sent us crashing out.

Then, against Blackburn he was lucky NOT to conceed a penalty for coming flying out and clattering the Blackburn centre forward, possibly Santa-Cruz.

The worrying thing for me is that VDS is coming to the end of his career with United, and there is a distinct possibility that he could be thrust into the number 1 slot.

I remember the days of dependable back-up goalkeepers with Van Der Gouw, Les Sealey, etc. We need a return to that scenario ASAP.
I stand by you... Many of you here already know that I'm no fan of him...
But one thing I do know is that whoever plays on the match we have to count on them... It's the whole team that makes up Manchester United...

As for a new Goalkeeper???
Is a must... I have not much confidence with Foster and I feel worst when Kuszczak on... If we are going to stick with this 2, please look around the top 4... Ours are far off in terms of experience and skills... Is Foster among the Ranks of you top 5 goalies in EPL??? We really have to give a thought about a good goalkeeper... Think back, we already have a fair share of wannabes Schmeichel... VDS is not going to be there for long, a new good goalie is a must...
 

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He is one of the best keepers around our Pole is. rash, but determined and nearly always gets his target. Okay so he is a bit of a flapper, but the determination to do well and improve his game will surely keep him here. We've always been able to rely on him as a #2, he sits, watches the game and works hard in training. the few times he's been called upon in emergency he's performed well. I just hope he learns from his mistakes and improves his game
 

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I will never ever be a fan of Kuszczak and he gives me the shudders naturally whenever he is keeping goal for us. He is a good shot stopper but the compliments stop short here too. He can be shaky and a bundle of nerves, exudes little confidence and conviction (as easily betrayed by his eyes), bad with crosses and bad with his kicks from back passes. Can't blame Fergie or the fans for having little faith in him despite the few years he has been with us. That was probably the reason why Fergie went for Foster too.

Foster seems reasonably good from what I have seen of him thus far. I do think he has the potential to go all the way to be a top keeper for both England and United. But still, he has not undergone any litmus test in a serie of high-intensity or high-stake games yet. So the jury is still out if you want to be strict about it.

Finally, I am really surprised nobody noticed that VDS has not been totally convincing at times this season and his upfield kicks from back passes of late can be mistaken for Kuszczak's too. From the look of things, I do think he is going downhill slowly but surely and is probably good for one or two more seasons at this level only.

Some food for thoughts perhaps about this department in the near future.
 

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He is one of the best keepers around our Pole is. rash, but determined and nearly always gets his target. Okay so he is a bit of a flapper, but the determination to do well and improve his game will surely keep him here. We've always been able to rely on him as a #2, he sits, watches the game and works hard in training. the few times he's been called upon in emergency he's performed well. I just hope he learns from his mistakes and improves his game
The thing is, we can't afford to have a goalkeeper who plays well neary all the time.

Next season will be a big season for either Foster or Tomas. One will stamp his authority for the long term replacement for VDS, the other will have to consign himself to either warming the bench, or looking elsewhere for first team action.

On a side note: I'd really like to see United make a move for either Allan McGregor of Rangers, or Artur Boruc from Celtic once VDS retires.
 
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