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I watch the England game yesterday and it was OK.

3 points is 3 points so yes - as I expected.

But to see England fans booing their own player before he kicks the ball is
a rather strange thing for me to understand.

Hmmmmmmmm.........but this seems to be the England way though.


No England victory is complete, it seems, without a scapegoat to provide a side
-show for sneering supporters.

Blackburn's David Bentley was the victim against Israel - the result of his late
withdrawal from the European Under-21 Championship last summer.

Everton defender Phil Neville also felt the cold blast of Wembley's ire with little
reason other than he is, well, Phil Neville.

Liverpool's Peter Crouch has also suffered abuse from England's fans in the past,
based on the fact that he is tall and thin.

But the jeers have never been louder or longer than they were for Chelsea
midfield man Lampard when he made his entrance with the game already won
against Estonia.

And when Lampard obliged his detractors with a badly misplaced pass behind
Joleon Lescott and a ball that was just too long for Shaun Wright-Phillips, his
stock sank even further.

England's fans pay their hard-earned cash to follow their country, so they are
entitled to voice their opinion.

But the abuse of Lampard is baseless and, at times, vindictive.

Lampard has been ousted from his central midfield slot by Aston Villa's Gareth
Barry, who once again produced an excellent display, and is unlikely to get it
back against Russia in Moscow on Wednesday.

But he is still vital to England's cause and remains one of the finest midfield
operators in Europe.

And yet for some reason, supporters who have suffered far worse England
players in silence, see fit to single Lampard out as their current whipping boy.

Lampard's unpopularity is a mystery. Is it the Chelsea factor? Is there a strong
contingent of West Ham fans among England's support who still harbour a
grudge?

Whatever the reason, the very public and embarrassing jeering of Lampard
should stop.

If those leading the criticism are demanding greater effort and performances from
Lampard, jeering and screaming abuse is hardly the best way to go about it.

You still wouldn't bet against him getting a crucial goal in Russia on Wednesday,
and where would his critics turn then?

Sadly for Lampard, his attempts to press his case have been hampered by the
emergence of Barry as England's midfield anchor alongside Steven Gerrard.

Neat and tidy, although maybe not as effective as against Russia, Barry still did
enough to earn another crack at Guus Hiddink's side.

Rarely squandering possession, Barry also demonstrated commendable energy,
covering the princely sum of 11,758 metres in England's cause.

There was little in England's display against Estonia to get the pulse racing, apart
from a few moments of quality from Wayne Rooney.

But it was efficient and there was never a doubt England would claim an easy
victory.

The only cloud on the horizon was an injury for Ashley Cole, ironic when McClaren
may have been considering removing him to save a yellow card that would have
ruled him out of Russia.

England will have to play with greater tempo, verve and inspiration to secure the
result they need in Moscow - but for now another comfortable three points will
do.

And if there is some justice, Frank Lampard will be around when the crucial points
are claimed.
 

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i don't like lampard....yes ....it's wrong that the english fans boooed..him...but..he is not for the national team...barry...is the man..4 now..and when Hargreaves regains full fitness...he will be the one for Steve
 

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Can any of u say he's been any good for England since sometimes before WC-06?

As a person I feel sorry for him but time is catching up the Chelsea dream. If you are big or as in Chelseas case was big you dont have many friends. Ask David Beckham how he was treated after his encounter with Diego Simeone WC-98.
 

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1goal and 1assist in 2 games so far this season for England just not enough anymore is it? You have to stink up the team like Gerrard does to get a regular spot
 

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hate lampost....he shit for england...im happy macca didnt play him he does nothing for us anyway...now stevie g can have a free role with baryy just in behind him covering him...we played wicked against estonia and now bring on russia
 

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Lampard is shite, especially for England.

He's slow fat and adds nothing to the team, apart from the odd triple deflected goal.
 

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Thomas G said:
Lampard is shite, especially for England.

He's slow fat and adds nothing to the team, apart from the odd triple deflected goal.
That has got to be up there with some of the dumbest, Stupidest posts I've seen in my entire life
 

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Im hardly the biggest Lampard or England fan but I dont think any player deserves that kind of reaction from their OWN fans especially. Its pretty disgraceful and it certainly wont do anything to help any of the players. It will have a detremental effect if anything.
 

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carlyluvsunited said:
I watch the England game yesterday and it was OK.

3 points is 3 points so yes - as I expected.

But to see England fans booing their own player before he kicks the ball is
a rather strange thing for me to understand.

Hmmmmmmmm.........but this seems to be the England way though.


No England victory is complete, it seems, without a scapegoat to provide a side
-show for sneering supporters.

Blackburn's David Bentley was the victim against Israel - the result of his late
withdrawal from the European Under-21 Championship last summer.

Everton defender Phil Neville also felt the cold blast of Wembley's ire with little
reason other than he is, well, Phil Neville.

Liverpool's Peter Crouch has also suffered abuse from England's fans in the past,
based on the fact that he is tall and thin.

But the jeers have never been louder or longer than they were for Chelsea
midfield man Lampard when he made his entrance with the game already won
against Estonia.

And when Lampard obliged his detractors with a badly misplaced pass behind
Joleon Lescott and a ball that was just too long for Shaun Wright-Phillips, his
stock sank even further.

England's fans pay their hard-earned cash to follow their country, so they are
entitled to voice their opinion.

But the abuse of Lampard is baseless and, at times, vindictive.

Lampard has been ousted from his central midfield slot by Aston Villa's Gareth
Barry, who once again produced an excellent display, and is unlikely to get it
back against Russia in Moscow on Wednesday.

But he is still vital to England's cause and remains one of the finest midfield
operators in Europe.

And yet for some reason, supporters who have suffered far worse England
players in silence, see fit to single Lampard out as their current whipping boy.

Lampard's unpopularity is a mystery. Is it the Chelsea factor? Is there a strong
contingent of West Ham fans among England's support who still harbour a
grudge?

Whatever the reason, the very public and embarrassing jeering of Lampard
should stop.

If those leading the criticism are demanding greater effort and performances from
Lampard, jeering and screaming abuse is hardly the best way to go about it.

You still wouldn't bet against him getting a crucial goal in Russia on Wednesday,
and where would his critics turn then?

Sadly for Lampard, his attempts to press his case have been hampered by the
emergence of Barry as England's midfield anchor alongside Steven Gerrard.

Neat and tidy, although maybe not as effective as against Russia, Barry still did
enough to earn another crack at Guus Hiddink's side.

Rarely squandering possession, Barry also demonstrated commendable energy,
covering the princely sum of 11,758 metres in England's cause.

There was little in England's display against Estonia to get the pulse racing, apart
from a few moments of quality from Wayne Rooney.

But it was efficient and there was never a doubt England would claim an easy
victory.

The only cloud on the horizon was an injury for Ashley Cole, ironic when McClaren
may have been considering removing him to save a yellow card that would have
ruled him out of Russia.

England will have to play with greater tempo, verve and inspiration to secure the
result they need in Moscow - but for now another comfortable three points will
do.

And if there is some justice, Frank Lampard will be around when the crucial points
are claimed.
They were booing Lampard because he is a shit player, who is trying to replace Barry, who is by far a better player, a better man and doing a better job. I dont like him, I would have booed.
 

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Justice said:
They were booing Lampard because he is a shit player, who is trying to replace Barry, who is by far a better player, a better man and doing a better job. I dont like him, I would have booed.
well your username is certainly fitting in that case
 

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Jazz 16 said:
Im hardly the biggest Lampard or England fan but I dont think any player deserves that kind of reaction from their OWN fans especially. Its pretty disgraceful and it certainly wont do anything to help any of the players. It will have a detremental effect if anything.
I find I'm agreeing with you more and more lately.

At least wait until the person does something before booing them. Holding a grudge against your own player is stupid.

Booing him b/c he's in a rivalry team in a league match is one thing, booing him b/c he's playing for his country is entirely different
 

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why the fcuk are you all moaning about england fans? worry about your own countrys. you don't hear us going on about romania, australia, usa or ireland

in fact us england fans wouldn't even watch any of your country's play, so why you so wrapped up in ours? every england fan knows why lampard get's booed
 

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andycole9 said:
why the fcuk are you all moaning about england fans? worry about your own countrys. you don't hear us going on about romania, australia, usa or ireland

in fact us england fans wouldn't even watch any of your country's play, so why you so wrapped up in ours? every england fan knows why lampard get's booed
Romania, Australia, USA and Ireland don't boo their own players though :p

I just find this very amusing. 2 months ago England draw with Macedonia and Israel and BOOOOMMMM !!!

"Sack McLaren !!! Next game is McLaren's last !!! McLaren is crap !!!"

Now he wins 3 games or whatever and everyone says he is the best - he is this and he is that !!

How can England expect to ever win anything with this kind of "support" ??

Sorry if the truth hurts but hey...........
 

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carlyluvsunited said:
Romania, Australia, USA and Ireland don't boo their own players though :p

I just find this very amusing. 2 months ago England draw with Macedonia and Israel and BOOOOMMMM !!!

"Sack McLaren !!! Next game is McLaren's last !!! McLaren is crap !!!"

Now he wins 3 games or whatever and everyone says he is the best - he is this and he is that !!

How can England expect to ever win anything with this kind of "support" ??

Sorry if the truth hurts but hey...........
Well that isnt the truth though. no one is saying maclaren is the best or that hes this or that as you put it,most of us still dont rate him as a manager.its fashionable to think england fans are fickle, but were not were realists.

I dont think he should be booed though lampard. he is a good understudy to gerrard, who isnt playing that great either.
I think its the club rivalry spilling over to the international scene
 

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Justice said:
They were booing Lampard because he is a shit player, who is trying to replace Barry, who is by far a better player, a better man and doing a better job. I dont like him, I would have booed.
You had to reproduce this whole article before making your reply Mr :p
 
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