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Liverpool pipped Manchester United to top spot in an all-time league table dating back to the start of English League football and published by The Times on Monday.

According to the standings which awards three points for a win and one for a draw since the start of league football in 1888, Liverpool, who have won a record 18 titles, emerged with 5,927 points from their 3,643 matches - an average of 1.63 points a game.

Manchester United, who have won 15 titles, were second with 5,337 points from their 3,287 matches - an average of 1.62 points per game followed by Arsenal, champions 13 times, who totalled 5,780 points from 3,643 matches at 1.59 points a match.

Despite playing only 2,063 matches in the top division, Leeds United were fourth with 1.48 average points with Aston Villa fifth (1.47), Everton sixth (1.47), Tottenham Hotspur seventh (1.44), Newcastle United eighth (1.43), Wolverhampton Wanderers ninth (1.42) and Burnley tenth (1.41).

Chelsea, champions for the last two seasons, are 14th (average 1.39 points) and would have to total more than 90 points a season for the next 23 years to overhaul Liverpool's present average points per game.

Leyton Orient, who spent one season in the top division in 1962-63, placed 62nd and last in the list with 0.64 points a match.

Everton, founder members of the league in 1888, have played more top flight matches than any other club: 4,027 while Liverpool have won more than anyone else: 1,674. Everton also hold the record for drawn games (987) and defeats (1,402).
 
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Just a personal opinion here, but i think that these sort of things mean nothing.
 

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I dont entirely agree with your opinion there, even though such statistics hardly matter in deciding the outcome of the coming season, still it reflects on a club's glorious past.
 

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This does not take into account the number of 1-0 wins by both Liverppol and Arsenal; to win 9-0 takes the same points as a dull 1-0 defensive game. Its statistically interesting but means actually very little.
 

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MUFC said:
Liverpool pipped Manchester United to top spot in an all-time league table dating back to the start of English League football and published by The Times on Monday.

According to the standings which awards three points for a win and one for a draw since the start of league football in 1888, Liverpool, who have won a record 18 titles, emerged with 5,927 points from their 3,643 matches - an average of 1.63 points a game.

Manchester United, who have won 15 titles, were second with 5,337 points from their 3,287 matches - an average of 1.62 points per game followed by Arsenal, champions 13 times, who totalled 5,780 points from 3,643 matches at 1.59 points a match.

Despite playing only 2,063 matches in the top division, Leeds United were fourth with 1.48 average points with Aston Villa fifth (1.47), Everton sixth (1.47), Tottenham Hotspur seventh (1.44), Newcastle United eighth (1.43), Wolverhampton Wanderers ninth (1.42) and Burnley tenth (1.41).

Chelsea, champions for the last two seasons, are 14th (average 1.39 points) and would have to total more than 90 points a season for the next 23 years to overhaul Liverpool's present average points per game.

Leyton Orient, who spent one season in the top division in 1962-63, placed 62nd and last in the list with 0.64 points a match.

Everton, founder members of the league in 1888, have played more top flight matches than any other club: 4,027 while Liverpool have won more than anyone else: 1,674. Everton also hold the record for drawn games (987) and defeats (1,402).

got a link to wherever u got that info ?
 
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MUFC said:
I dont entirely agree with your opinion there, even though such statistics hardly matter in deciding the outcome of the coming season, still it reflects on a club's glorious past.
Good point!
 

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This may be a touchy subject with some but I wonder how many more trophys would have been won if "Munich" did not happen? I believe it was eight years between wins. All I know is that I like the history of Manchester United and couldn't care about Liverpool. Right now, who has more supporters? Answer - Man Utd.
 

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The Busby Babes were recognised at the time as on a par with the then legendary Real Madrid, if not better? They really were an amazing team. They would have won the European Cup in 58 and possibly quite a bit afterwards, not too mention leagues and cups. To put it into some sort of perspective, Booby Moore would not have had a look in, in the England setup, if Duncan Edwards had survived.
 

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Liverpool are undoubtably the most successful club in the history of english football but give it another ten fifteen years and i'm sure we will overtake them at the top of the pile
 

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Red Devil said:
This does not take into account the number of 1-0 wins by both Liverppol and Arsenal; to win 9-0 takes the same points as a dull 1-0 defensive game. Its statistically interesting but means actually very little.
Not a fan of 1-0 wins then Mr Devil, he he he - maybe now you are though :p
 

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hey, i thought united had 16 titles, that report said 15 ? ooppssss
i didnt realise the date on the thread.
 

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We do have (Jazz) 16 titles. Not sure where it says 15 but its not true.
this thread was made in 2006, thats why i was confused at first, we hadnt won it yet!:)
 
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