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City are never going to be able to buy anyone for under 35 million ever again. They've been running their mouths of far too much about 135million for Ronaldo and 60million for Buffon, and black checks for Van Nistelrooy.
 

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Guardian

Sheikh who bought City has wider goal

Owner wants to use club as springboard for enhancing United Arab Emirates......

It is a football club with a Brazilian star, a stadium to host at least 40,000 fans and a billionaire sheikh in the director's box. But this is not Manchester City, the Premiership side bought out this week by Abu Dhabi's royal family, it is the Al Jazira Club, the first footballing love of City's new owner, Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

The facilities here would shame many English top flight clubs. Sheikh Mansour, who likes to attend games in an eclectic ensemble of dishdasha and black and white team scarf, has built an ultra modern stadium, an Olympic-sized swimming pool and an arena for his professional volleyball team. There is even a tenpin bowling alley.

The thousands of litres of water sprayed on the pitch every minute evaporates instantly in the 45C (113F) heat, but the 38-year-old can afford it. His family presides over a fund worth $750bn (£425bn) at conservative estimates. As half brother of Abu Dhabi's supreme ruler, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Sheikh Mansour enjoys the powerful position of minister for presidential affairs. He is also an oil mogul and manages the nation's International Petroleum Investment Company with interests in Spain, South Korea, Pakistan and Kazakhstan.

"He is not just some leader with lots of money to throw at a football club," a senior courtier said. "He has intellectual interests and presides over the national archive. He is cool-tempered, sensible and thoughtful."


He is a public face too, often spotted in Abu Dhabi's best restaurants, and on Wednesday night he launched a Ramadan sports festival - featuring football, judo, swimming, chess and even Playstation computer games.

Senior courtiers have acknowledged that publicity surrounding the purchase of Manchester City has created the impression in Britain that the emirate is playing a grotesque game of fantasy football.

They said this was wide of the mark, and Sheikh Mansour was set to use Manchester City as a springboard to improve football in the Gulf and enhance the international reputation of the United Arab Emirates. The management of signings will also be more pragmatic than so far suggested, they insist.

Sheikh Mansour is behind a campaign to ensure the United Arab Emirates team qualifies for the 2010 World Cup finals in South Africa, and Abu Dhabi has won the right to host the Fifa World Club Cup in 2009 at the 55,000 seat Zayed Sports City stadium. City will be expected to play in the one of the emirate's five professional standard stadiums on a frequent basis.

"We need time to become like the Premier League," said Khalid Al Omari, a spokesman for Al Jazira FC. "People are pleased with the deal because we will learn about how to operate in a high level professional league."


Some Emirati believe the reason football supporters in Britain complain the buyout is a rich man's shopping spree is partly down to Sulaiman al-Fahim, the ostentatious 31-year-old bid spokesman who proposed to offer £134m for Manchester United's Christiano Ronaldo. "We are going to be the biggest club in the world," he bragged.

His approach has embarrassed some sheikhs who believe that a golden opportunity to gain respect has been squandered. "He should keep his head down or somebody will want to chop it off," said one courtier, who added that Sheikh Mansour may have ordered al-Fahim to stop "grandstanding".

"Mansour is a lot more pragmatic than approaches being made for players suggest," said another. Informed sources believe another member of the royal family, Sheikh Mansour's brother Sheikh Tahnoun, could also be an investor which might explain al-Fahim's involvement.

Excitement over the deal has been running higher in the UK than in Abu Dhabi, where local clubs are drawing fervent support and foreign teams are rarely held as close to the heart as home sides. This week evidence that Manchester City could soon become as popular in Abu Dhabi as their red-shirted rivals at Old Trafford was thin on the ground.

"Ninety-five per cent of the boys in my class love football but they all talk about Manchester United, Milan and Real Madrid," said Mohamed Al Mazroue, a 17-year-old student "I have never heard of Manchester's other team."

None of the six sports shops scoured by the Guardian stocked City's sky blue shirts, though one did offer Sunderland, Everton and Glasgow Rangers.


"This is a branding exercise to build up the UAE's international standing," said Hassan Abud, an IT consultant. "This is part of the growth strategy for Abu Dhabi. They are competing against Dubai."

A week today the talk about motives will stop, for 90 minutes at least, when Sheikh Mansour's new look Manchester City take on Roman Abramovich's Chelsea. One billionaire against another.
 

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City are never going to be able to buy anyone for under 35 million ever again. They've been running their mouths of far too much about 135million for Ronaldo and 60million for Buffon, and black checks for Van Nistelrooy.
black checks ? surely not a typo from the grammar policeman ?:eek: :D
 

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SALFORD RED said:
NOT written by me but a very good sumary which is probably echoed
in thousands of minds.


Has anyone ever witnessed a more rapid abandonment of principles than that shown by City fans this week?

For years they have banged on about being the people's club; a football club that is still a football club as opposed to an organisation obsessed with money; supporters who were in it for the love of the club, the love of the game; 30 years and we're still here; the true Manchester club; ‘This is our city' and all that nonsense. An entire generation of fans who have built their identity purely on being whatever United are not.

And what were United? A greedy, rich club that bought success with its vast wealth. Wealth which came before all else, acquired through disgraceful commercialism and a soulless disregard for the beautiful game. Fans who cared only about trophies and expensive signings, and who understood nothing of what it meant to be a true football fan - a City fan for example.

But this is the United whose fans at least cared about retaining its identity as a Mancunian football club. When foreign owners with the wrong motives came sniffing round Manchester United, we fought and fought and fought to keep them away. We used every means legal, and some illegal ones too. We mobilised, we collected, we protested, we campaigned, we lobbied, we vandalised, we wrote, we phoned, we emailed, we rallied, we marched, we flash-mobbed, we rioted. We made it impossible for them to visit Manchester peacefully. And the loss of our club to people who didn't give a toss about its identity and traditions meant so much that some of us walked away altogether. Home and awayers with decades of fanaticism to their names had decided that forming a new club, with the incredible effort that entailed, was the only alternative to seeing their club used as some egotistical *******'s plaything.

Contrast this with 1st September 2008. The only sound you could hear that day was that of 100,000 zips being simultaneously lowered as the blue quarter of Manchester collectively dropped its trousers and bent over, willing to be shamelessly violated by some slimy rich man's ****. Not a shred of pride, not a moment's defence of their supposedly salt of the earth club; just a panting mass, all ready to be anybody's bitch in exchange for money with which they can buy success.


There really is only one true football club in Manchester, and it's not Manchester City


MANCHESTER IS RED !!!

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Thanks for sharing that, Sal.

If ever I read truth, that would be it. I remember being so mortified whenthe Glazers started buying up shares. My liverpool and arsenal-supporting buddies were giving me stick all the effing time.

We all know what has happened to pool since....

But the point is, I was so proud at the way the fans stood up against it, even participating at the AGMs trying to get their voice to be heard.

And of course using the other means desribed in the article. At least we cared enough to fight for our club.

Them man city supporters were just so sick and tired of being the lesser sibling and not playing decent football that they didn't even raise a voice in protest when Thaksin, a man on trial for corruption, bought over their club.

Ridiculous.....

And now they've been bought by Arabs, who are using the club as a marketing tool for their own country and as a real-life football manager game.

I never want to hear anoher word from a man city supporter ever again
 

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Well, within 3 or 4 years Man City will become the biggest and wealthiest team not only in Manchester but out of any football team in the world.

Glazer or Roman will ever be able to compete with the unlimited transfer fund and ridiculous wages Abu is willing to pay.
I know we won't transform overnight but once we start getting 3 or 4 of the best players in this January then it will only be a matter of time before they all want to play for us.
Robhino was just a warning to Chelsea that we can swipe big targets from under the noses of one of the biggest clubs in the world and within 5 years City will have the dream team of the finest players from Chelsea, Man utd,Barcelona and Real Madrid all probably on 200k a week minimum per player. Man City is to become the team Chelsea wanted to be when Roman took over but even he won't compete with the silly wages and transfers of Man City.

United will more than likely be in the top 2 this season, and even the next but by the season after that or a soon as Fergie goes (which won't be too long) then City will be the number one team by far in the Premier League.

Some might say, keep dreaming but the proof is there. The massive transfer budget is there and its looking like Abu wont think twice to adding a few million quid on what a player is worth just so he can get him to City. Id say 80% of transfers are money orientated, and the likes of Ronaldo likes his money.
If we bid 130m for him in January (40m more than he is worth) then the Glazers will sell, im sure of that.

Enjoy being Man utd's number one cos in less than 5 years from now you will be knocked off the perch, for sure!!


- I've put this post in this thread, because it will stimulate discourse, but don't try to spam our site. I deleted the posts you tried to make in the other threads.

You're welcome here, if you want to discuss football, but if you're here to wind up people or spam, you'll get the boot.

By the way, check out the post above.

Man City timidly let foreigners buy out their club, which could be perceived as trading their soul for glory.

MUAKS, RedForceRising.
 
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Well, within 3 or 4 years Man City will become the biggest and wealthiest team not only in Manchester but out of any football team in the world.

Glazer or Roman will ever be able to compete with the unlimited transfer fund and ridiculous wages Abu is willing to pay.
I know we won't transform overnight but once we start getting 3 or 4 of the best players in this January then it will only be a matter of time before they all want to play for us.
Robhino was just a warning to Chelsea that we can swipe big targets from under the noses of one of the biggest clubs in the world and within 5 years City will have the dream team of the finest players from Chelsea, Man utd,Barcelona and Real Madrid all probably on 200k a week minimum per player. Man City is to become the team Chelsea wanted to be when Roman took over but even he won't compete with the silly wages and transfers of Man City.

United will more than likely be in the top 2 this season, and even the next but by the season after that or a soon as Fergie goes (which won't be too long) then City will be the number one team by far in the Premier League.

Some might say, keep dreaming but the proof is there. The massive transfer budget is there and its looking like Abu wont think twice to adding a few million quid on what a player is worth just so he can get him to City. Id say 80% of transfers are money orientated, and the likes of Ronaldo likes his money.
If we bid 130m for him in January (40m more than he is worth) then the Glazers will sell, im sure of that.

Enjoy being Man utd's number one cos in less than 5 years from now you will be knocked off the perch, for sure!!


- I've put this post in this thread, because it will stimulate discourse, but don't try to spam our site. I deleted the posts you tried to make in the other threads.

You're welcome here, if you want to discuss football, but if you're here to wind up people or spam, you'll get the boot.

By the way, check out the post above.

Man City timidly let foreigners buy out their club, which could be perceived as trading their soul for glory.

MUAKS, RedForceRising.
I think it's a bit premature to say City will become the biggest team in the world. Money doesn't make a big team, history
does. United have, though the decades, built teams hat play attractive and attacking football and won many trophies.

With this success comes a commercial following from oversees that has taken decades to build. Chelsea had a short
lived success when Abramovich took the reins but within two years Manchester united were back on top as the best
team in England.

He's spent over 600 million pounds on players and his club are no closer to overtaking us as the biggest club in
the world, only Real Madrid can compete with us in that respect.

Spending money does not guarantee success. The type of player you will now be signing will not be joining City because
they love the blue shirt, they'll be joining for monetary gain only. They'll have no passion for your club and no commitment
to it either.

You're also not guaranteed to attract the best players. Berbatov was offered more money at City but turned you down
in favour of a dream move to Old Trafford. Money isn't what every footballer wants and I believe a lot still want to play
for teams with history like ours.

Fabregas said a move to City would be 'career suicide' and he's not wrong. You can buy all the star players you like,
but 11 individuals does not make a great team, as illustrated perfectly by the galactico's of Real Madrid and
the rentboys of Chelsea.

Robinho only moved to City because Chelsea didn't match your bid. He has openly said that City were not his first
choice and he'd prefer to have moved to Chelsea, yet your fans now worship him before he's even kicked a ball.

Now on to your plastic fans. Last month you couldn't give season tickets away, but since the takeover over 5,000
have been sold. That's loyalty is it? United will always fill their stadium because we've got a solid fanbase who stay
loyal to the cause. As soon as the first sign of trouble hits City your stadium will be half empty again like it was
for all of last season.

Hope this helps.
 

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I think it's a bit premature to say City will become the biggest team in the world. Money doesn't make a big team, history
does. United have, though the decades, built teams hat play attractive and attacking football and won many trophies.

With this success comes a commercial following from oversees that has taken decades to build. Chelsea had a short
lived success when Abramovich took the reins but within two years Manchester united were back on top as the best
team in England.

He's spent over 600 million pounds on players and his club are no closer to overtaking us as the biggest club in
the world, only Real Madrid can compete with us in that respect.

Spending money does not guarantee success. The type of player you will now be signing will not be joining City because
they love the blue shirt, they'll be joining for monetary gain only. They'll have no passion for your club and no commitment
to it either.

You're also not guaranteed to attract the best players. Berbatov was offered more money at City but turned you down
in favour of a dream move to Old Trafford. Money isn't what every footballer wants and I believe a lot still want to play
for teams with history like ours.

Fabregas said a move to City would be 'career suicide' and he's not wrong. You can buy all the star players you like,
but 11 individuals does not make a great team, as illustrated perfectly by the galactico's of Real Madrid and
the rentboys of Chelsea.

Robinho only moved to City because Chelsea didn't match your bid. He has openly said that City were not his first
choice and he'd prefer to have moved to Chelsea, yet your fans now worship him before he's even kicked a ball.

Now on to your plastic fans. Last month you couldn't give season tickets away, but since the takeover over 5,000
have been sold. That's loyalty is it? United will always fill their stadium because we've got a solid fanbase who stay
loyal to the cause. As soon as the first sign of trouble hits City your stadium will be half empty again like it was
for all of last season.

Hope this helps.
Agree 100% here Blade. Any player that joins Al Ciddeh for big money now is the
type of player only interested in money and the type of player i don't want
anywhere near United!
 

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The likes of United, Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid are financially secure enough to resist overtures for their best players.

City may be able to buy the best players from lesser clubs around Europe, if the players want to move to City, but I think you're living in dreamland if you think you'll have a fantasy all-star XI in 3 or 4 years time.
 

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^^ Great post by Blade with a lot of valid points.

Man City don't have a core nucleus of players, who grew up dreaming of playing for Man City. Who does anyway? :D

You might be able to buy a few trophies, but you will never attain greatness. it takes decades to build up and the sort of fans you attract by buying success ala Chelski will leave you the moment you stop winning or their attention is shifted elsewhere.
 

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Blade said:
Robinho only moved to City because Chelsea didn't match your bid. He has openly said that City were not his first
choice and he'd prefer to have moved to Chelsea, yet your fans now worship him before he's even kicked a ball.
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our fans worship Berbatov and compare him to Cantona and he haven't kicked a ball yet :rolleyes:

back on topic


Citteh can buy success but that success won't be perminant or long lasting and it will ago away after 2 or 3 years

but first of all
to buy your success you need to find a manager who's able to lead your team to glory and control the "big stars" you gona buy
this kind of manager is hard to find and hes rare too :rolleyes:

if you want success look and learn from Abramovic

splash cash on great -non superstar- footballers like what ChillCash did with Drogba and Essien

also you should have good bases like chelsea had before Abra (Lampard and Co)

second step is move on into a great manager, get Morinho Wenger or Fergie
then get some achievements and make your team will known in the world so you can have more attracted players who want more trophies and money at the middle east of city

then if the manager control the stars and keep on the good work the success is guaranteed

but wait this success would never last long as in 2012 "6 + 5" rule will be introduced and it will limit the number of foreigners to 5 players in your starting XI
so all your foreign superstars will have to have a bench time and then you will start looking for more English players whom their clubs would never sell

so Enjoy your temporary dreams about success and if their any part of glory enjoy it as soon as possible as it will not last long
 

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Oh my word!

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Abo! Did someone type that for you?!?!?!

That is a constructive post with good points and it's actually understandable!


*golf clap*

That is your best post by far. Well done, mate. You're the ROW clan proud!
 

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To win Titles and Champions Leagues you need stablilty. United were in their 13th consectutive champions league before we won it last year. that is why the scousers have never won the PREMIER LEAGUE because they have chopped and changed managers, starting elevens etc.. newcastle for example cant even get into the top ten ( with all their support, huge stadium, good team because they have had loadsa, bit of cash) because they have not had stability. City will need to have 5 or 6 good seasons finishing 7,6,5, or even fourth until they can even look at the red side of manchester.
 

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To win Titles and Champions Leagues you need stablilty. United were in their 13th consectutive champions league before we won it last year. that is why the scousers have never won the PREMIER LEAGUE because they have chopped and changed managers, starting elevens etc.. newcastle for example cant even get into the top ten ( with all their support, huge stadium, good team because they have had loadsa, bit of cash) because they have not had stability. City will need to have 5 or 6 good seasons finishing 7,6,5, or even fourth until they can even look at the red side of manchester.

Good call, mate!

With big money, comes big expectations and i'll be very surprised if they keep faith with a single manager without success.

If Mark hughes doesn't deliver a CL place this season or next, the owners will start the merry-go-round and will disrupt any stability there's been at the club. Many big signings will follow, but without a strong nucleus or managerial leadership, it will be difficult to win the Premier League.

i can see s9ome success in cup tournaments bu the league is different fish altogether.
 

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To win Titles and Champions Leagues you need stablilty. United were in their 13th consectutive champions league before we won it last year. that is why the scousers have never won the PREMIER LEAGUE because they have chopped and changed managers, starting elevens etc.. newcastle for example cant even get into the top ten ( with all their support, huge stadium, good team because they have had loadsa, bit of cash) because they have not had stability. City will need to have 5 or 6 good seasons finishing 7,6,5, or even fourth until they can even look at the red side of manchester.
Chelsea won the league after 3 seasons with money... and City have more money than them, been honest i think if they get the right players in and have a manager that can deal with it i think maybe not this year or next year but defo the year after that they can challange! Money talks dude
 

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Good call, mate!

With big money, comes big expectations and i'll be very surprised if they keep faith with a single manager without success.

If Mark hughes doesn't deliver a CL place this season or next, the owners will start the merry-go-round and will disrupt any stability there's been at the club. Many big signings will follow, but without a strong nucleus or managerial leadership, it will be difficult to win the Premier League.

i can see s9ome success in cup tournaments bu the league is different fish altogether.
All he has to do is break the top foue this year!!!!
Look at Liverpool guys, he has an easy task, maybe 3 good signings in january for City will cement top 4 finish! Watch
 

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City's grand plan to rule the globe has a world of problems

The club aims to become the Virgin of football but experts believe it may go horribly wrong....

Garry Cook, the executive chairman of Manchester City, this week revealed plans for the club to become "the Virgin of Asia and the world". Before he proceeds with this scheme, though, one that could eventually see City-branded cars, food outlets, energy drinks and motorcycle helmets sold across the globe, he may want to consider the warnings of those whose expertise lies in enhancing commercial profiles and who are convinced Cook's desire to become the Richard Branson of football is a non-starter.......

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/12/manchestercity.premierleague


Arsene Wenger lashes out against City ethics

Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has launched a scathing attack on Manchester City's prospective new owners, accusing the Barclays Premier League's new financial superpower of lacking ethics and treating football like a “supermarket” with their threats to buy the world's best players from their rivals regardless of the cost....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4736009.ece
 
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Well well well,things might not be as rosy at Eastlands as some might like to think! :D :D :D

14 September 2008
A SHEIKH TO CITY'S BID PLAN
By Alan Nixon
Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan is changing the goalposts in his move for Manchester City - and wants to pay LESS for a SMALLER slice of Thaksin Shinawatra's club.
In a sensational twist the wealthy Abu Dhabi bidder is looking to take just 75 per cent of City rather than the original 90 per cent proposed by his team.
The Arabs are disturbed by the size of debts Shinawatra has run up - with estimates the Thai has clocked up bills of around £140million - and their search of the books has altered the deal.
Now the Sheikh and his team are proposing to pay Shinawatra a lot less cash in the latest dramatic twist at 'Middle' Eastlands...and they will settle for a majority but not near-overall control.
Shinawatra is in a difficult position. His assets are frozen in Thailand and he has run up costs that would cripple City if the Arabs walked away.
Sheikh Al Nahyan's team only came to the table late on in the search for a buyer.
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Other groups came and went be for they emerged in the last days of August - but it would be catastrophic if they turned out to be a footballing mirage.
People Sport can reveal only a fraction of the cost for several transfers at City have been paid - like Robinho, Jo and Shaun Wright-Phillips.

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/footb...objectid=20736791&siteid=93463-name_page.html

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Date set for takeover of Man City
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7628080.stm

Manchester City have announced that the formal takeover of the the club by the Abu Dhabi United Group will be completed on Tuesday.

The group, backed by Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al Nahyan, will buy City from UK Sports Investments Ltd, which was led by former Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra.

Thaksin, who will remain honorary president, told City's website that selling was in the club's interests.

He said City would have "owners who share similar ambitions to my own".

Thaksin added: "When I bought Manchester City the club had been languishing in the bottom half of the Premier League and had an uncertain future.

"We invested in new talent and management and have been delighted by the success that has brought to the club.

"The supporters of Manchester City have been wonderful to me. They have made my family and I welcome and we have enjoyed meeting them enormously. They are passionate about their football club and deserve success."

Sheikh Mansour, who announced that close friend Khaldoon Al Mubarak would become the club's chairman, said manager Mark Hughes was "integral to our plans".

He added that the Welshman would be given time to build a team which could break into the Premier League's top four and challenge for European honours.

ADUG is estimated to be worth around 10 times more than Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, who has ploughed over half a billion pounds into the Stamford Bridge side.

And a host of star names have already been linked with a move to Eastlands since the Middle East company announced its intentions to buy the club, splashing a British record fee of £32.5m to secure Robinho on transfer deadline day.


But Sheikh Mansour, who is a member of the Royal Family in Abu Dhabi, said the club would continue to invest in home-grown talent and "not just a team of all-stars".

"We are lucky to have someone who we believe is the best young British manager. Someone who has been successful on the global stage, the Premier League and of course as a player," said Sheikh Mansour in a statement on the club's website.

"We are ambitious for the club, but not unreasonably so and we understand it takes time to build a team capable of sustaining a presence in the top four of the Premier League and winning European honours.

"We know a little of the history at City also and whilst we want to bring in the best players in the world, we also want to see the academy continue to develop talent and give Mark Hughes the chance to bring home-grown players into the team.

"We consider Mark Hughes to be one of the prime assets of the club. We will back his judgement in what players to bring in and we look forward to working more closely with him in the future.

"We are building a structure for the future not just a team of all-stars."

Sheikh Mansour admitted his investment in the Premier League club was a personal venture rather than a state project and pledged his long-term commitment to City.

"In cold business terms, Premiership football is one of the best entertainment products in the world and we see this as a sound business investment," he said.

"That being said, we understand that we need to put money in to get the club to where we believe it can be and where we think you the fans want it to be.

"I am also a long-term investor and that is probably more important to the club and to you [the fans] because it means we are here for the long haul and that we will act always in the best interests of the club and all of its stakeholders, but especially the fans."
 
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