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I hate to say it, but I think we've bought a crock. I don't know how with the medical equipment and knowledge around these days but the guy is never fit very long and he's out again. Every time he comes back he has lost his match fitness.
 

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OK, so he might be having terrible luck with his knee, but he did manage a decent number of games las season and made an impact in most of them.

On his day he is a great asset to the squad and i'm a fan.

I don't think his in the same category as Louis Saha or Darren Anderton....yet.
 

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OK, so he might be having terrible luck with his knee, but he did manage a decent number of games las season and made an impact in most of them.

On his day he is a great asset to the squad and i'm a fan.

I don't think his in the same category as Louis Saha or Darren Anderton....yet.
" yet" being the operative word...agree with everything you say on his day is brilliant but the number of niggling problems esp. the knee knee issue is starting to get worrying esp if you believe a few reports he's done the old saha thing of deciding himself when he's fit or not as the case may be
 

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" yet" being the operative word...agree with everything you say on his day is brilliant but the number of niggling problems esp. the knee knee issue is starting to get worrying esp if you believe a few reports he's done the old saha thing of deciding himself when he's fit or not as the case may be
I'm not a professional athlete and I have had probs with my ankle and knee when the docs have said "it's fine, but it didn't feel fine to me or not 100% anyway. In most cases I was right and they discovered something else.

I don't think he's wrong in speaking up when something's not right.
 

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The last time i check yeah...Sir alex said he felt his knee..


From what i know Owen injury is different from Saha..OWen got his injury after he broke his leg while playing for Bayern which resulted to him suffering from tendinitis.Since then this problem keep coming and going even untill now..If i can remember correctly, he never had any major problem or any knee injury before the broken leg incident. It seems that once he started the high intensity training the tendon seem to flared up. Shame that his, is not a surgical option if not it would be much more easier to call for surgery. Compared to Saha, he is facing the same problem everytime. If i could turn back time, i wish he didnt broke his leg.. if anything, his situasion remind me so much of Ole than of Saha tbh.:(
 

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The last time i check yeah...Sir alex said he felt his knee..


From what i know Owen injury is different from Saha..OWen got his injury after he broke his leg while playing for Bayern which resulted to him suffering from tendinitis.Since then this problem keep coming and going even untill now..If i can remember correctly, he never had any major problem or any knee injury before the broken leg incident. It seems that once he started the high intensity training the tendon seem to flared up. Shame that his, is not a surgical option if not it would be much more easier to call for surgery. Compared to Saha, he is facing the same problem everytime. If i could turn back time, i wish he didnt broke his leg.. if anything, his situasion remind me so much of Ole than of Saha tbh.:(

This leads back to my transfer rant.

if we had moved for him earlier, he would have never extended his contract - we could have got him cheaper and he would never have broken his leg!
 

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Give the lad a chance. people get injuries, Its part and parcel of the game, but
the lad is a fighter so expect to see him fit and raring to go sooner rather than later.
 

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I'm getting a bit worried actually.

Hes not exactly injury-prone, its just a serious problem with tendonitis. It crops up an awful lot, and it looks like everything we try with him just fails.

Hes a fantastic player on his day, and is a great asset wherever he plays. But he misses a lot of games over the season because of his knee problem.

Its no time to panic yet I suppose, but its starting to worry me and if it keeps going, we may miss a lot from him.

And just to help for anyone whos interested, I looked up some information on Tendonitis! ;) :) (As I've done before in another thread :p) {The black text is mine, red is actually about tendonitis}

"A tendon is a tough yet flexible band of fibrous tissue. The tendon is the structure in your body that connects your muscles to the bones. The skeletal muscles in your body are responsible for moving your bones, thus enabling you to walk, jump, lift, and move in many ways. When a muscle contracts it pulls on a bone to cause movements. The structure that transmits the force of the muscle contraction to the bone is called a tendon.

Tendons come in many shapes and sizes. Some are very small, like the ones that cause movements of your fingers, and some are much larger, such as your Achilles tendon in your heel. When functioning normally, these tendons glide easily and smoothly as the muscle contracts.

What is tendonitis?

Sometimes the tendons become inflamed for a variety of reasons, and the action of pulling the muscle becomes irritating. If the normal smooth gliding motion of your tendon is impaired, the tendon will become inflamed and movement will become painful. This is called tendonitis, and literally means inflammation of the tendon.

What causes tendonitis?

The most common cause of tendonitis is overuse. Commonly, individuals begin an exercise program, or increase their level of exercise, and begin to experience symptoms of tendonitis. The tendon is unaccustomed to the new level of demand, and this overuse will cause an inflammation and tendonitis.

Another common cause of symptoms of tendonitis is due to age-related changes of the tendon. As people age, the tendons loose their elasticity and ability to glide as smoothly as they used to. With increasing age, individuals are more prone to developing symptoms of tendonitis. The cause of these age-related changes is not entirely understood, but may be due to changes in the blood vessels that supply nutrition to the tendons.

Sometimes, there is an anatomical cause for tendonitis. If the tendon does not have a smooth path to glide along, it will be more likely to become irritated and inflamed. In these unusual situations, surgical treatment may be necessary to realign the tendon.

Read on for more information about different types of tendonitis..."


There are lots of different types of tendonitis, (Wrist and Achilles among others) The knee tendonitis is Patellar (Kneecap) Tendonitis Well thats the only knee tendonitis thats listed.

Patellar (Kneecap) Tendonitis
Patellar tendonitis, or inflammation of the patellar tendon, is a condition often called Jumper's Knee. Treatment of patellar tendonitis usually consists of rest and anti-inflammatory medication.

Several methods of aiding healing involve;

Rest and Protect The Area, Apply an Ice Pack, Take Anti-Inflammatory Medications, Cortisone Injections

Methods to try to prevent the tendonitis coming back include;

Strengthening and Physical Therapy
Proper strengthening technique can help you avoid tendonitis by using your muscles in a safe, more efficient manner. For example, patients with rotator cuff tendonitis can learn ways to move the shoulder that will not cause inflammation. Do not begin exercises until the inflammation of tendonitis has resolved!

Take Breaks
Alternate repetitive tasks with breaks to relieve stress on the tendons. Don't perform one activity continuously for hours at a time. For those with exercise-related tendonitis, try to vary your workouts to relieve the repetitive stress of one exercise activity.

Protect the Tendons
Some patients who have chronic tendonitis will find relief by protecting the affected area when performing certain activities. For example, wrist splints can be worn while gardening, or Chopat straps (patellar tendonitis) can be worn while playing sports.
 

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ok so with tendonitis constantly getting him down can you really find him helpful anymore? Im just as annoyed with this problem but if he ain't helping the team that much then why is he there? Apparently you cant surgically fix tendonitis either, so I think he should start worrying more about his safety. If he ends up working it too much then it might eventually give away making the leg useless. I think we lost money to bayern. we should have bought him before he got injured.
 

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I am actually getting very annoyed with this problem...Its starting to get abit like the saha situation where he started having continous knee and leg problems.

Hargo when he joined became one of my favourite players quite quick because he could read the game great, break up opposition play was natural for him and he was great against top teams when int he middle with anderson who seemed to enjoy having hargo around as he could rely on hargo to do the ball winning and let anderson work the ball around and move up with it.

However this should have been dealt with properly in the summer and its still an issue now and he is playing a game and then not fit for the next anf then playing another then not fit for two weeks etc...that does not work and its highly annoying and disruptive to a team looking to find its rhythm...

I like the guy but injuries have an affect on every player if they become continous and its starting to worry me.

I want to see a 100000% fit hargo in the centre of midfield for united on a consistant basis...not on a choose to be 100% and then not the week after but are the week after...lol

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I used to get tendinitis in my arm, its not fun stuff. Its excruciating but, hopefully for Owen it'll just stop happening like it did for me.
 

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hargreaves is a good player and i was delighted when utd got him ,only to find that he carries a serious knee problem that ain't really curable .he is struggling to play 1 game out of 3 its almost laughable utd took 2 years to finally get him then find that is knee is causing him agony , this problem is really wear and tear of the joint the only solution is to play him sparingly and he will never be 100% match fit it looks like a waste of 18 million to me and bayern munich have really outsmarted utd on this occasion.:mad:
 

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Fergie hoping for Hargreaves solution

OWEN Hargreaves has accepted that time is the only healer to the knee tendonitis problem that has dogged his 14-month United career.

The England midfielder arrived from Bayern Munich last summer for £18m with the injury.

It delayed his Reds' debut and throughout his first season the 27-year-old only played a sequence of three games on the trot in one spell.

His opening trio of matches against City, Spurs and Sunderland were followed by a fragmented campaign.

Now 12 months on and it is the same scenario. He missed the opening to the Reds' campaign, started back-to-back matches against Villarreal and Chelsea and has been absent since Stamford Bridge.

He has been left behind in Manchester whilst United are on Champions League duty in Denmark.

"We are having to manage his situation in a different way. He has had all the treatment but it flares up now and again," said Fergie.

"There is nothing we can do about it. The specialist says it will go away in time. We hope that is correct because he is an important player to have.
"He is a big-game player. He has the experience and is very adaptable in different positions."

Captain Gary Neville also stayed back at Carrington.

The 33-year-old has returned to the United starting XI this season and has five starts under his belt following his 18-months out with ankle ligament damage that cost him all but nine minutes of last term.

But he picked up a niggle against Bolton last Saturday and Fergie has decided on a new game plan for Neville.

"Coming back after a long time off we will have to manage his schedule differently. He maybe won't play in all the midweek games or if he plays in midweek he wouldn't play in the Saturday game after that.

"He has a slight little strain but he will be OK for Saturday against Blackburn."



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well if time is the healer then he should just stay off for a while. If he plays 1 match and his tendon flames up, then he would skip the next two matches to heal. Then he would play another match and the same thing happens. Why not just stay off for a while? Wait until its completely healed with little chance of the tendonitis coming back before u play. I know that it could, probably would, take quite a bit of time but its still better to get a consistent performance.
 

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I like Hargreaves since he starred for England in the World Cup. He seemed to be winning almost every ball he fought for even though he is not the biggest CM if you still remember. The only bright spark for England then and the man of the tournament for them.

At United, he has been persistently dogged by his knee problem. However, although he is not as impactful as a CM as he was for England in the World Cup (probably due to his fitness problems), he still impresses me with his runs down the right flank, his competitiveness and ball winning abiliities, his free kicks (the only one in our team that takes freekicks like Beckham) and his crosses (one of the two best crossers besides Nani).

Putting his wonderful attributes aside, I still can't understand how he could have passed the medical to sign for us if the problem first started when he was with Bayern. Something amissed or "eye shut wide"?

Nonetheless, I really wish he can overcome it (is it possible?) and play a big part for us in our various pursuits.
 

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I used to get tendinitis in my arm, its not fun stuff. Its excruciating but, hopefully for Owen it'll just stop happening like it did for me.

Apparently that is what the specialist said, it would eventually go away on its own.
 

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Putting his wonderful attributes aside, I still can't understand how he could have passed the medical to sign for us if the problem first started when he was with Bayern. Something amissed or "eye shut wide"?


Ditto
 
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