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Next week will be two years to the day that George Best died, after battling
against an alcohol addiction for years. He has been hailed as the greatest player
ever in the game time and again, and is often the mark any bright prospect at
United is measured against. However, his title as the greatest ever is disputed
by some, but even Pele, who rivals Best for the accolade, said George was the
greatest ever player.

There is much debate over who is the best player in the World at present.

Meelan's Kaka seems to be most people's favourite, after his storming displays in
the Champions League last season. No doubt he took United right out in the
semi's, and scored a whopping 10 goals in the competition, which isn't too
shabby for a midfielder! Our very own Ronaldo, who collected a clean sweep of
the individual awards at domestic level, looks to be snubbed for the up and
coming Ballon d'Or, with the impressive Brazilian set to steal the plaudits.
However, if we look at the two players last season, Ronaldo scored more goals,
and had twice the assists of Kaka, when taking in to consideration all club
competitions. Kaka collected a pitiful eight goals in thirty one appearances for AC
Milan in the league, in a season where they finished fourth and were essentially,
just a cup team. Granted, the best Cup going, but still just a cup team, focussing
all their energy on the Champions League. The team we battered 7-1 at Old
Trafford finished some fourteen points ahead of Milan. Even without the point
deduction the club faced for corruption, they would have finished third, twenty
eight points behind the Champions, Inter. In contrast, Manchester United lead
the table from the start of the season, with Ronaldo scoring crucial goals against
several clubs, and racked up two goals in three games for Portugal in their Euro
2008 qualifiers. In total, he scored 25 goals in the 56 matches he played in last
season, for club and country, which is phenomenal for a winger, and managed 20
assists for United.

Now of course, the Champions League attracts more attention from Europe than
the Premier League, and therefore it is not much of a surprise that Kaka is
receiving all the attention at the moment. Turning up for a handful of games in
the Champions League, (and by turning up, I mean playing exceptional football!)
appears to be worth more than showing up week in week out in your own
league. Ronaldo had the highest number of assists in the league last season
(13) and was the third highest scorer (17), behind two out and out strikers who
both had great seasons. He made the difference between United losing and
winning on so many occasions, and essentially, contributed invaluably to winning
the title, and our most successful year since 1999.

Now, just as in the past Pele has added weight to our argument that George Best
was the greatest ever, Kaka has provided Ronaldo with a great shout for the
best player currently in Europe. “He is the best,†said Kaka, of Ronaldo. “Not only
for his technical ability, but also for what he has done with Portugal.†Whilst
Chelsea's Drogba is tipping himself for the award, it is great to see the modesty
of Kaka, as well as hearing the praise for our player.

The Ballon d'Or winner is due to be announced within the next few weeks, but I
won't be getting my hopes up over a Ronaldo win. A United player hasn't been
crowned the best in Europe since George Best in 1968 (with Denis Law and
Bobby Charlton winning it before him), which is ridiculous considering the talent
we've had since then. Bryan Robson, Eric Cantona, Roy Keane, Peter Schmeichel
and Ryan Giggs, to name the first few players who spring to mind, haven't even
been in the running. Dwight Yorke scored 30 goals for us in the Treble winning
season, but rolled in at 11th place that year. Andy Cole, who made up the other
half of the highest scoring partnership in Europe that season, managed a 26th
place finish. The closest United players have come to scooping the award since
Best are Cantona, who was voted third in 1993 (behind Dennis Bergkamp and
Roberto Baggio) and Beckham, who was voted second in 1999 (behind Rivaldo).
The Italian League has seen seventeen winners, the Spanish league has seen
twelve winners, and the German league has seen nine. The English league
boasts only five winners. The figures don't bode well for Ronaldo.

Regardless, it is nice to see our young winger be recognised and praised so
highly by the player the World of football is currently ranting and raving about.
Whoever the winner, there is no doubt in my mind that Cristiano Ronaldo
contributed more heavily to the success of his club and country than any player in
Europe last season, and I wouldn't dream of swapping him for Kaka, or Messi, or
anyone else. So here's to Ronaldo, our player of the year!
 

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There's a couple of Argentinians who are usually mentioned in the best ever and best current player debates.

Who thinks Maradona and Messi should be included in this?

Some people argue that Pele wasn't even the best Brazilian.

There may be one or two who would add Zidane too...

For me, Pele and Kaka are rightfully thought of as the best ever and best current player.

Ronaldo will take Kaka's crown at the end of this season though ;)
 

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Its great to see Bestie and Ronaldo getting acknowledged by Pele and Kaka.
The above article makes a good case for Ronaldo to win it, but that wont happen, id bet my house on Kaka winning it. He has too after his performances in the CL alone. In the semis against United Kaka shown through where as Ronaldo seemes disinterested even.....
Ronaldo WILL win this award at some stage but it wont be this year.

Id go along with you Dwarf on some of the players you mentioned. Zidane deserves to be up there now and in years to come people will be saying, Pele, Best, Maradona, Cruyff, Zidane, Ronaldo, Kaka and Messi. Im sure of it.
 

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reddwarf said:
There's a couple of Argentinians who are usually mentioned in the best ever and best current player debates.

Who thinks Maradona and Messi should be included in this?

Some people argue that Pele wasn't even the best Brazilian.

There may be one or two who would add Zidane too...

For me, Pele and Kaka are rightfully thought of as the best ever and best current player.

Ronaldo will take Kaka's crown at the end of this season though ;)


It's between Pele, Socrates and Zico imho......all legends...have a video of them..
 

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Maradonna, pele,zico, cruyff and a few other's would certainly deny have something to say about that.

cruyff turn.....lol......ya were all magnificent players......

I notice how there is never any defenders mentioned in relation to the greatest players ever debates....

Maldini, Beckenbauer......
 

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rydersonthestorm said:
Well madlini isn't as good as baresi so that counts him out.;)

I was just making the point about defenders tbh...but as you said in the shoutbox earlier defenders don't win matches and tournaments for teams on their own...like Maradonna did for Argentina in the World Cup...
 

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Beckenbauer, B.Charlton, Charles, Matthews were all regarded as legends, those players are four times the player Kaka and Ronaldo currently are.

That's a nicely written article Carly, although interesting use of
'meelan'!
 

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Beckenbauer, B.Charlton, Charles, Matthews were all regarded as legends, those players are four times the player Kaka and Ronaldo currently are.

That's a nicely written article Carly, although interesting use of
'meelan'!
You never heard of 'Meelan' before ?

Same kind of thing as 'Chelski' and 'Les Arse' just a nick name.......
 

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Yes I have, but I was just wondering why you wrote Meelan :p Just thinking that post must have taken a while to research, pity I don't have the time to come up with such quality!
 

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Ajant said:
Yes I have, but I was just wondering why you wrote Meelan :p Just thinking that post must have taken a while to research, pity I don't have the time to come up with such quality!
You wonder why I wrote 'Meelan' ?

Why.......

Why do you never 'wonder' why I write 'Chelski' or 'The Arse'.......

As for you having time to come up with such quality - what relevance does this have to the thread ?
 

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Just applauding your well written post that is all Carly!

And just wodnering why "meelan" I just don't hear/see it much thats all.

Not sure if that's how they pronounce it though tbh, I got iti friends lol
 

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<<<<< I have never seen such a complete player in my life! in the 97,98 seasons he had speed, clinical finishing, mind boggling skills, and the abillity to score from just about anywhere in the pitch taking out about 8 or 9 defenders while on his way. He was won every individual honour available and every club and country cup available! the only thing left is the champs league then there truly is nothing he hasn't accomplished! 9Ronaldo greatest player of all time
 

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R_9-Ronaldo said:
<<<<< I have never seen such a complete player in my life! in the 97,98 seasons he had speed, clinical finishing, mind boggling skills, and the abillity to score from just about anywhere in the pitch taking out about 8 or 9 defenders while on his way. He was won every individual honour available and every club and country cup available! the only thing left is the champs league then there truly is nothing he hasn't accomplished! 9Ronaldo greatest player of all time
...............and all accomplished despite being fat with tricky teeth....

Just goes to show huh :D
 

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Ajant said:
Just applauding your well written post that is all Carly!

And just wodnering why "meelan" I just don't hear/see it much thats all.

Not sure if that's how they pronounce it though tbh, I got iti friends lol

lol...you Australians don't pronounce anything right.....:D

and trust me.....Italians definitely pronounce it "meelan".......ok....

you've got friends.....:eek:
 

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R_9-Ronaldo said:
<<<<< I have never seen such a complete player in my life! in the 97,98 seasons he had speed, clinical finishing, mind boggling skills, and the abillity to score from just about anywhere in the pitch taking out about 8 or 9 defenders while on his way. He was won every individual honour available and every club and country cup available! the only thing left is the champs league then there truly is nothing he hasn't accomplished! 9Ronaldo greatest player of all time

Can't find any fault in your post, I hope he can regain that form in the near future or even if he comes close he will be one of the best strikers in the world......

Still have a poster of him in my bedroom of him standing beside the statue in Rio de janeiro....called "Christ the redeemer".....the statue that is...!!
 
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