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These are usually horrible to watch but since we lost to Arsenal in the
Fa cup in 2005 its been plain sailing. :)



We have won the last 3:
-Community Shield '07 vs Chelsea.
-CL final vs Chelsea.
-Community Shield '08 vs Pompey.

Do you think we are some kind of specialists? or we just have more bottle? or luck?

Notice Edwin's preparation for the penalties? He takes his time and comes right
to the edge of the 6 yard box, making himself look big and unnerving the
opposition players. I believe it was cos of him we won vs Pompey. He helped
make those players miss imo. Edwin will always go down as a legend for his
penalty heroics.
I would LOVE IT if we played and beat Madrid on peno's this season :D

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Its a great habit to get into and the team gain confidence at taking them while
the opsoition have that in their mind the fact that we have such a good record of
late.

I noticed Edwins set up actually. Calmy walks and just slows everything down to
his pace. Takes his time, sets himself an dthen he's ready. All that with the fact
that he's a huge bloke and it must be a very intimidating site seeing him taking up
the goal in front.

Hopefully we can win more now without having to loose all our nails though from
now on, although it does fill you with confidence to know that we have some
quality penalty takers. My top 5 United penalty takers would be, in no particular
order;

Tevez
Ronaldo
Hargreaves
Carrick
Saha



Future loos good!:D
 

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All thanks to Van the man!!!!
Oh god that Aresnal match..... we shoulda had the game over at half time!
i watched the game with a gunner, he jumped all over me!!!
But it has been very good since then, fergie must work alot at them coz all the players seem confident now:)
 

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i think thats a cracking point about edwin, he is becoming abit of a peno master, he dont need to dance like that fat scouser once did he just looks big, but i also think its down to the players if you look at the kicks aginst pompey, you can see the hunger and the calm collectness within them.
with the exception of carricks peno, if you see the peno's on sunday they were just taken like they were training kicks abit like italy did in the world cup.
i think there more about confedance if you have a good keeper who you know will save atleast some then you know there isnt as much pressure on you i suppose.

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SolskjaertheLegend said:
I would rather Giggs take a pen than Saha.

Saha is actually the club peno taker.

If he's playing an dRonaldo's playing, he'll take the spot kick. Last time was
Chelsea he scored....

...I'm shocked at how cool Giggsy is at them TBH, in Moscow and at Wembley
were both excellent shots
 

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Saha is finished at United.

If Berbatov comes, then I wouldn't be suprised if that went.

Saha doesn't have the right mentality to score a pen. His pen at Chelsea had no pressure, a little but of pressure and he'll mess up.

Ronaldo
Hargreaves
Carrick
Tevez

All quality pen takers.
 

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Im pretty sure that if Saha and Ronaldo are both playing this season (unlikely!) and we have a penalty, then Ronaldo will take it!

We are definitely doing well on penalties and Edwin is a big reason for this.
 

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Say no to Saha for Kicks from the mark/penalties. He either goes left or straight ahead everytime!

Hargo
Tevez
Ronaldo/ Nani
Carrick/ Rooney
Giggs/ Scholes/ Ando
 

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Cappy said:
Say no to Saha for Kicks from the mark/penalties. He either goes left or straight ahead everytime!

Hargo
Tevez
Ronaldo/ Nani
Carrick/ Rooney
Giggs/ Scholes/ Ando
If go along with these guys you mentioned more or less.

Ronaldo
Hargo
Tevez
Carrick
Giggs


Nani and Anderson scored in the CL final under extreme pressure so we can rely
on those two. Id also be happy with Scholes, Rio, Saha or Rooney taking one.
I pretty much named the whole team there didnt I? :rolleyes:

One thing is for sure, we got options.
 

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Before the Champions League Final I would have said penalty shoot-outs were one of my least favourite things in the World ever.

England v Germany at Italia 90, England v Germany at Euro 96, England v Portugal at Euro 2004, England v Portugal at Germany 08, United v Arsenal in the 2005 FA Cup Final

Shudder.
 

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Before the Champions League Final I would have said penalty shoot-outs were one of my least favourite things in the World ever.

England v Germany at Italia 90, England v Germany at Euro 96, England v Portugal at Euro 2004, England v Portugal at Germany 08, United v Arsenal in the 2005 FA Cup Final

Shudder.
yeah it must be tough for you English....... Ireland lost won against Spain in
2002 and I cried....:( We would have gone on to win the World Cup and all..:cool:
We won won in 1990 against Romania and I can remember that day like it was
yesterday. Best day ever :)
But yeah the English have THE worst record in shoot outs in World football.
I cant imagine how depressing it must be to get knocked out of EVERY
tournament on peno's :D
 

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Jazz 16 said:
If go along with these guys you mentioned more or less.

Ronaldo
Hargo
Tevez
Carrick
Giggs


Nani and Anderson scored in the CL final under extreme pressure so we can rely
on those two. Id also be happy with Scholes, Rio, Saha or Rooney taking one.
I pretty much named the whole team there didnt I? :rolleyes:

One thing is for sure, we got options.

I wouldnt really trust Saha with a penalty. He just strikes me of a bit of a bottler (celtic away anyone?)

Nani I would be worried about aswell. I know he scored in the CL but if you watch it again it was very, very lucky to have gone in, Czech seemed to palm it in his own goal.

I actually think VDS is very overrated at saving penalties right now. I know he saved Anelka's but he should have also saved Lampards and Cole's pens aswell. Plus Defoes on Sunday was very savable.

Hargreaves is a brilliant penalty taker. Wsn't he the only 1 who scored vs Portugal in the WC?

I seem to remember Sven saying he was our best penalty taker aswell.
 

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hargo is awesome at penalties. The one in the CL final was possibly the best
peno I have ever seen, considering the pressure that was on him.
Fair point about Saha I guess.......He would be way down the list anyway
if we had another shoot out.
 

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Jazz 16 said:
If go along with these guys you mentioned more or less.

Ronaldo
Hargo
Tevez
Carrick
Giggs


Nani and Anderson scored in the CL final under extreme pressure so we can rely
on those two. Id also be happy with Scholes, Rio, Saha or Rooney taking one.
I pretty much named the whole team there didnt I? :rolleyes:

One thing is for sure, we got options.

Thats what I realized when I was naming my five. I had originally put Rooney there in front of Carrick, remembering when he won the Shootout against Chelsea for the Shield last year. Anderson and Nani were both great in the CL Final as well. And my favorite peno take might be Scholes, like the one he blasted into the roof of the net straight ahead (can't remember who it was against). That isn't even mentioning Carrick who took the last penalty we won. Yes, this is one area, that doesn't concern me at all :D
 

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I think the reason Hargreaves is so good at penalties is because he lived in Germany for so long, and they never, ever, miss penalties.

When Hargreaves scored that pen in the CL final it was strange because although it was an amazing pen, the commentator was like "ooh just!...just".
 

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Cappy said:
Say no to Saha for Kicks from the mark/penalties. He either goes left or straight ahead everytime!

Hargo
Tevez
Ronaldo/ Nani
Carrick/ Rooney
Giggs/ Scholes/ Ando
I'm one of Rooney's biggest fans and I simply don't think hes a good peno taker.
Aston Villa away last season. He's not what Id call peno material! :p...

When did Scholsey last actually take a peno for us? Was it the FA Cup final
against Arsenal or has he taken one since? Long time to not take one IMO.

Jazz 16 said:
But yeah the English have THE worst record in shoot outs in World football.
I cant imagine how depressing it must be to get knocked out of EVERY
tournament on peno's :D
Low blow, Jazz! Low blow....but I like it! :p

However....Spain 2002 :(



Anyways.....
 

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Keano! said:
I'm one of Rooney's biggest fans and I simply don't think hes a good peno taker.
Aston Villa away last season. He's not what Id call peno material! :p...

When did Scholsey last actually take a peno for us? Was it the FA Cup final
against Arsenal or has he taken one since? Long time to not take one IMO.
I agree with both points, Rooney does make me a little nervous, but i really expect it to be clicking in his head right now, and then he would do fine. He usually shines in big moments, that one against Villa was for a meaningless hat trick when the game was in hand.

And about Scholes, it has been a long time, but I don't think there is anyone I trust more than him with how level-headed he is and the incredible accuracy when striking a ball.
 

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Cappy said:
I agree with both points, Rooney does make me a little nervous, but i really expect it to be clicking in his head right now, and then he would do fine. He usually shines in big moments, that one against Villa was for a meaningless hat trick when the game was in hand.

And about Scholes, it has been a long time, but I don't think there is anyone I trust more than him with how level-headed he is and the incredible accuracy when striking a ball.

They're the only two players United have which IMO, are most likely to rocket in either in or over.

Not critising them , but I'd rather see Rooney and his volleys and Scholes and his 30 yarders. ;)


And if Edwins ever Injured, we should just stick Wazza in goals anyways! Or Sheasy! :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx6xM3q2rd0


I'd say Rio's a quality pen taker! Eh?
 
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