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White Hart Lane
Sunday, 1st December 2013
KO: 12:00

Tottenham Hotspur host Manchester United at White Hart Lane on Sunday 1st December 2013 (KO 12:00) in the 13th round of matches in the 2013-14 season. It will be the 184th meeting between the two clubs who were the "glamour teams" of the 1960s.

Spurs come into the match in 9th place on 20 points with United in 6th place on 21 points.

Tottenham Hotspur's first meeting with Manchester United came in the old 1st round (today's 3rd round) of the FA Cup in January 1899 when United were known as Newton Heath. The match was drawn 1-1 at Northumberland Park, but Spurs won the replay 5-3 at Bank Street in Clayton, Manchester.

A decade later the two clubs met for the first time in a Football League match with United drawing 2-2 at White Hart Lane in the First Division.

The reverse fixture at Old Trafford was easilly won by United 5-0.

Tottenham's first League win over United came in November 1911 2-1 at Old Trafford.

Both clubs met for four seasons in the Second Division during the 1930s.

Since the start of football after WW2, all League meetings have taken place in the Top Flight of the English League system.

In 1952, both clubs toured North America and played two exhibition matches with Spurs winning 5-0 in Toronto, Canada and 7-1 in New York, USA.

The clubs were drawn together in the 1963-64 European Cup Winners' Cup with Spurs winning 2-0 at the Lane and United winning 4-1 at Old Trafford.

Old Trafford was the venue for the 1967 FA Charity Shield with League Champions United and FA Cup Winners Spurs drawing 3-3 in a game most remembered for goalkeeper Pat Jennings' long-range goal. The Charity Shield was shared.

August 1979 saw the clubs meet for the first time in the Football League Cup and Glenn Hoddle's magnificent volly was the winning goal in a 2-1 Spurs victory at White Hart Lane. United went on to win the second leg at Old Trafford 3-1.

In June 1983, the clubs played two matches in Swaziland, Southern Africa, resulting in a win each. Prior to this season, Spurs last win at Old Trafford came in December 1989 thanks to a Gary Lineker goal.

The clubs have only ever met in one Domestic Cup Final - the 2009 Football League (Carling) Cup Final at Wembley, which ended in a 0-0 draw after extra time. United won the subsequent penalty shoot-out.

Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and are two of the seven clubs who have been ever-present up to the 2013-14 season - Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton and Liverpool being the other five.The fixtures during season 2010-11 saw United win 2-0 at Old Trafford in October while the reverse match at White Hart Lane ended in a 0-0 draw.

2010-11 was the first season when both Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur competed together in the UEFA Champions League. Both clubs won their respective Group Stages and progressed to the Knock-Out Phase. Spurs eventually went out to Real Madrid in the Quarter Finals while Manchester United made it to the Final, only to lose to Barcelona.

The away fixture at Old Trafford last season in August resulted in a 3-0 win for United with goals from Danny Welbeck, who headed in Tom Cleverley's cross just after 60 minutes and he then produced a wonderful instinctive flick to set up a second for Anderson. Wayne Rooney scored with a pinpoint late header from Ryan Giggs's centre.

The game at White Hart Lane in March 2012 was won by United 3-1. Wayne Rooney scored on the stroke of half-time to put the visitors ahead at the break. Further goals were added with a brace from Ashely Young before Jermain Defoe got one back for Spurs with three minutes remaining.

Last season's fixture at Old Trafford resulted in an historic 3-2 win for Tottenham - their first in the League at Old Trafford in 23 years. Jan Vertonghen's second minute strike was deflected-in off Jonny Evans and Gareth Bale added a second goal after 32 minutes. United hit back through Luis Nani after 51 minutes but Spurs restored their two goal cushion a minute later with a Clint Dempsey goal. Shinji Kagawa scored United's second goal a minute later and Spurs survived the pressure for a United equaliser to come away with three very well earned points.

Former Manchester United defender Zeki Fryers joined Spurs in January 2013 from Standard Liege in Belgium.

The match at White Hart Lane in January 2013 resulted in a 1-1 draw. Robin van Persie put United ahead on 25 minutes but an injury-time goal from Clint Dempsey meant the points were shared. United went on to win the Premier League Title and Sir Alex Ferguson resigned at the end of the season.

Overall, United have a very good record over Spurs with 86 wins to 50 with 47 of the 183 matches played so far drawn.


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David Beckham (United player, Spurs trainee)
Dimitar Berbatov
Bill Berry
Alan Brazil
Jimmy Brown
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Michael Carrick
Garth Crooks
Harry Erentz
Quinton Fortune
Zeki Fryers
Terry Gibson

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Greoge Graham (United player, Spurs manager)
Jack Hall
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We have a good record at Spurs, I never fear playing them as I might if we were away at Chelsea , Pool or Arsenal. Their will be smarting after that hiding yesterday though.
 

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Hello again mate. One of the best "opposition" supporters who post here.

I suspect we're ripe for the pickings for a Tottenham backlash on Sunday. Our midfield is more porous than a sponge.
 

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I'm a bit shell-shocked at the moment, as I suspect are most Spurs fans.

We've created plenty of chances all season, but converting them into goals has proved to be a very difficult task.

United are on a good run and I'd expect them to come away with at least a point on Sunday.
 

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I'm a bit shell-shocked at the moment, as I suspect are most Spurs fans.

We've created plenty of chances all season, but converting them into goals has proved to be a very difficult task.

United are on a good run and I'd expect them to come away with at least a point on Sunday.
Krull did a maginificent job against you recently- you certainly created chances. I doubt we'll beat you, or not in style if we do. As a child one of my favourite players was John White,killed by lightning while he was playing golf I believe. Tragic.Good luck.
 
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Hello again mate. One of the best "opposition" supporters who post here.

I suspect we're ripe for the pickings for a Tottenham backlash on Sunday. Our midfield is more porous than a sponge.
I agree on both points in your post Mikey (y)
 

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Spuds fans are ok
My mate Phil Toon was at that City match and stopped replying after i texted High 5 to him
On recent form anything could happen apart from us playing decent football.
 

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I'm a bit shell-shocked at the moment, as I suspect are most Spurs fans.

We've created plenty of chances all season, but converting them into goals has proved to be a very difficult task.

United are on a good run and I'd expect them to come away with at least a point on Sunday.
We are a bit shell-shocked too by our performances despite a better-than-expected run of 10 (?) games undefeated in a major major transition. So what will happen when two shell-shocked meet....?

Thanks for the OP btw (although we did a bit of tweaking). (y)
 

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The next 2 games for United may very well decide their fate this year, not getting the 3 points against Cardiff means it"s imperative to get 3 at Spurs.
 

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De Gea

Rafael Smalling Evans Evra

Jones Giggs

Valencia Kagawa Nani

Rooney​

I don't care if Giggs has played 90 minutes 4 days prior, I don't care if RVP's fit, I don't care if Kagawa gives Lauren Moyes some of that Japanese egg roll, this better be the f*cking team.
 

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Exactly this. Though if Robin is fit, he's starting. Don't know how long he's out for....
In all honest if he's fit he should play but seriously, we can't bench any of the attacking players who played today, they were all outstanding and I'd rather let Robin rest and be 100% for the next game.

We can have him on the bench if he's needed :)
 

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De Gea

Rafael Smalling Evans Evra

Jones Giggs

Valencia Kagawa Nani

Rooney​

I don't care if Giggs has played 90 minutes 4 days prior, I don't care if RVP's fit, I don't care if Kagawa gives Lauren Moyes some of that Japanese egg roll, this better be the f*cking team.
In a perfect world....but if Vida and Robin are fit, they're starting....
 

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My first prediction was a 1-1 draw, but if we play like we did tonight then we'll put 3 or 4 goals past them. I'd be happy if Moyes puts out the same team, but if Vidic is fit then I'd definitely start him ahead of Rio.
 

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Spurs might bite back from the 6-0 spanking they got. Play like tonight, and we have a chance of coming with 3 points. But if we play like the game against Cardiff, I'd say there is a big chance we might lose this 3-1.
 

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2-0 loss. I'd have the same 11 as today with Vidic for Rio + Rafael for Smalling. RVP for Kagawa if he's fit.
 
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