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Questions must be asked of Fergie

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Chelsea 2-1 Manchester United

Just for once, the questions need to be asked of Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson rather than his Chelsea counterpart Avram Grant.

On a day when the Premier League title race could have been put to bed once and for all, the most respected coach in the history of the English game committed the sort of error that would lead to calls for a lesser man to be sacked. Make no mistake, the finger of blame for this potentially devastating defeat should be pointed at United's legendary manager.

There was a collective gasp around the Stamford Bridge press room when the team sheets were digested, with the absence of Cristiano Ronaldo, Carlos Tevez and Paul Scholes a surprise on a day when so much was at stake.
Ferguson gave a hint that he was preparing for a defeat in his pre-match television interview by suggesting his side's superior goal difference could make all the difference in the final analysis, but the sparkling team who have long been tipped to win this league presented their chief rivals with an open goal before a ball had been kicked.

United would hardly relish the idea of heading to a crumbling pitch at Wigan in two weeks time needing a win to claim their tenth Premier League title, but the selection he made for this game gave Chelsea all the encouragement they needed to defy the doubters and reclaim the Premier League crown wrestled from their grasp last May.

With Chelsea fastest out of the blocks, the nervous nature of United's defending early on suggested the likes of Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic were a little wary of the task they had been saddled with by their manager and when they latter of that duo was stretchered off with concussion after he clashed with Didier Drogba after just 13 minutes, their self-inflicted troubles merely multiplied.

As Chelsea poured forward, the home side were sensing blood and the opener so nearly arrived when Cole crashed a shot against the crossbar with Edwin van der Sar well beaten.

The goal they threatened for so long finally arrived as Drogba floated a cross into the path of Michael Ballack and his header was guided past Van der Sar with all too much ease. The agitation on the United bench in front of us in the press box was all too evident as they fell behind, while Avram Grant and his Chelsea staff were celebrating as if they had won the league itself.

The quality of the United starting eleven was the major talking point as the growing number of journalists who indulge in a couple of large glasses of red wine mid-way through their working day gathered for a summit and even without some of their star names, the questions had to be asked of the players Fergie had sent into battle for this mammoth match.

Michael Carrick, Anderson, Darren Fletcher and Nani are all paid big money by United to play in games of this stature, yet their first half display was not that of players who belonged at this level, so it needed some of the famed Ferguson's hairdryer treatment to raise his troops for the second half.

Whatever he said in the dressing room adjacent to the wine swilling hacks, it seemed to work as United emerged for the second half with renewed energy and once Wayne Rooney equalised after Ricardo Carvalho's howling error with 57 minutes on the clock, it seemed as if Ferguson was going to get away with his team selection.

Then the title race was blown wide open again as the ineffective Michael Carrick handled in the box five minutes from time and Ballack kept a cool head to blast home the goal that leaves United with no more wiggle room.

'There is no way I could have played the same eleven that started at Barcelona on Wednesday night,' argued a defensive United boss. 'The travel takes something out of you and we have to keep one eye on the return game this coming Tuesday. It's not too far away don't forget. I have spoken all year about the quality of the squad I have here and they had to respond when we needed them.

'A penalty decision has cost us in the end, but our goal difference has always been a massive plus for us. We came here with a team good enough to get a proper result, but we move on now.'

The celebrations around Stamford Bridge suggested the Chelsea fans believe a title party will be on the agenda when the final day of this Premier League season is over, but Avram Grant is always a good man to dose the flames of joy and he did just that with his latest dour press conference.

'We did what we needed to do,' said Grant, again displaying all the personality of a stale jelly bean. 'We won the game against Manchester United and it puts them under pressure. I'm very proud with what we are doing this season. We have now won big games against Arsenal and United, which shows great character. We also showed we can play good football despite what everyone says.

'I have to believe United will crack, or else there is no point in being in this game. It will not be easy for them to win the two games they have left when all the pressure is on their shoulders.'

It's a good job that Avram Grant's team have shown a brighter side than their depressing manager in the last few weeks, yet the Israeli bore could just end up as a Premier League title winner after this momentous victory.

Could it be that Alex Ferguson is contemplating finishing what looked set to be great season without a trophy by the end of next weekend? Should such a shocking scenario become reality, United's celebrated boss will only have himself to blame.

MAN OF THE MATCH: Michael Ballack
Goals are all that matter in games of this magnitude and Ballack was so cool with the two chances that came his way. His late penalty was a touch of class.

WHERE'S ROMAN? Speculation was rife in the press room that Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has fallen out of love with his Stamford Bridge play thing and his absence from this massive clash did little to dose those rumours.

INSIDER OPINION: The Premier League need to look at their fixture list and ensure a high profile game like this is not scheduled for the week of a major Champions League game. Not only does the schedule affect the quality of their league, it also harms the hopes of English teams in Europe.

HANDBAG BOYS: Didier Drogba and Michael Essien played out something of a pathetic squabble and they argued over who would take a second half free-kick. Drogba often strikes you as the kind of guy you need to suck up to in a bid to avoid him throwing a tantrum.

FOOD WATCH: Another early kick-off demanded the full English breakfast and Chelsea delivered in style to a packed press room.

VERDICT: If momentum counts for anything in this title race, then Chelsea are on course for the most improbable of triumphs. United dare not do anything but beat West Ham and Wigan in their final two games.



Source: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=529298&root=england&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos2&cc=3436


I agree with this article from espn...it was Fergie's choice of team which lost us the game and maybe will lose us the title...tactics was correct, choice of players - WRONG! :mad:
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Journalists and posters on here can criticise Fergie, and his tactics or his team
selection whatever. They have a right to voice their opinions.

What really annoys me, and has done for years, is the fact that when Fergie
proves them wrong and he goes on to glory ... he wins, again ... and they all join
in the celebrations and bathe in the glory ... not one of them ever has the grace
to stand up and say "Well fair play to Fergie, I was wrong and he sure as hell
made me eat my words".

Journalists are a disgusting breed !!!

But I guess they have to write something, it's their job after all !

I personally think Fergie has put great faith in his players recently. Some have let
him down but I know they haven't done it on purpose. This team that was
chosen to play Chelsea has been criticised by journalists worldwide. But if Fergie
had got the draw from it, they would have said "Oh well, this is to expected from
United".

Don't forget that this team, which everyone now considers to be wrong, tactically
incapable of doing the job and blah, blah, blah was just 6 minutes away from
getting a point and all but sealing the Premiership for us. It took just one
unfortunate (maybe dubious) penalty decision to turn all that on it's head - and
make Fergie look bad !!!

I have faith in Fergie. He is the epitomy (?) of success. He's the best that ever
walked this earth ... and we must now win 4 more games to grab a remarkable
double of Champions League and Barclays Premiership.

I don't feel I have the right to criticise this guy - EVER - I just have too much
respect for him ... There is a very fine line between success and failure in his
job ... he has walked that line for 23 years now ... and I have no complaints
whatsoever about Fergie or anything he does !
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Desmondo ...

I see what you say ...

But I think any criticisms should be brought up IF AND WHEN he fails ...

Not now ... with 4 games still left to play and all to play for.

If he wins both - or just one - of the trophies still available to him, then these can
be seen as minor hiccups. If he wins nothing, then maybe he has made glaring
errors !

But to judge the man BEFORE he has completed the job is madness !

I liked the comment on the article above ... says it all really ...


shout

"has anyone stopped to think why Sir Alex might be slightly annoyed in their last
two PL games they have had penalties turned down not remember Boro when
the defender comes flying out with his hands raised no pen, and again at
Blackburn Emerton moved his hand towards the ball but no pen, albeit he should
be more composed but i can understand the frustrations it would make my blood
boil if i was a paying fan, player or manager was it not Mr Wiley that refused a
boro penalty against Bolton for an almost identical incident last week!!! these
refereeing inconsistentcies don't help matters especially at the business end of
the season And don't forget no matter how much better Chelsea played Man U
were only 4 mins away from going into the Barca game with the league tied up
and a fresh Ronaldo, Tevez and Scholes. It's a game of fine margins!!!
"
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sharafanta7 said:
i wasn't surprised Manchester United lost 4 two reasons:

1] Ronaldo didn't start (he hardly played)

2] Chelsea haven't lost at the bridge for 101 games...
Hmmm....

So every single game Ronaldo plays in ... we win !!!

That's what you imply here.

Sadly, we do lose when he plays ... so point number one ... BUSTED !!

Chelsea haven't lost at the Bridge for 101 games ...

Therefore Chelsea WILL NEVER lose at the Bridge ... is what you imply ...

They will ... obviously.

So point number two ... BUSTED !!

Maybe you WERE surprised they lost ... and now look to point the finger of blame.
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fazman said:
I wish I could of put it like you jazz instead I lost my temper again must learn to control my temper when mourons post rubbish
It's 'morons' and not 'mourons' ... ;)

But no need for names like that.

People have the right to an opinion - right or wrong.

Opinions are never wrong - to those who have them.

To others they may seem ludicrous.

They may quote facts and figures that are wrong - so correct them.

You can suggest to them they are wrong - and tell them your views which is what
a forum is for. But why worry about it ? Why get stressed and angry about it ?

I made a thread about Ronaldo - after he missed the penalty recently
I asked people if he looked dazed and lost interest in the game. (I didn't
actually say he did, I asked if people thought he did but as usual
people misread things). People were up in arms about it, going crazy etc etc (I
deleted it in the end, I couldn't be bothered to show how they had mis-read it)...
but why ? If, If ......If that was my point of view, or how I saw it, so what !
Either make a sensible comment on it ... or carry on to the next thread !!

Chill out Fazzy Man ... watch your blood pressure ... Why get these silly bans
because someone has said something you disagree with ... we can always track
them down and beat them with a soggy newspaper anyway ... ;)

moondog said:
OK people, I know I am going to get roundly criticized for this, but Fergie is not infallable (he may be close to it, tho!). He is a human being and makes mistakes like the rest of us. He is in a position where questions about his team selection and tactics are going to be raised after a period of less than stellar performances. IMO the last few fall into that category. I think the reality is that some of us (myself included) expect him to win every game. Yes, that is unfair and unrealistic, but we see the chance for such greatness from this team.

I don't think anyone has said that he isn't the greatest manager in football - he is. But when the team falls short, some of us will criticise.

Whether we should or not is a valid point - but isn't that what these forums are about...differing opinions?
Nice post Mr and worthy of some rep points ;)

I'd like to add ...

It is OK to criticise the guy ...

But don't do it when he has four games left to win the two biggest prizes
available to United !!!

I would wait until it is impossible for him to win them !!!

Because until this time - he could, and would prove you wrong !!

He's done it before and he will do it again !!!
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You raise some good points desmondo, and I do hear what you say.

My biggest problem, which I don't think I highlighted is when the guys or girls
here start threads about Fergie after a bad result ... and then set about saying
ie. Ronnie was rubbish up front, he shouldn't be there, Rooney on the wing is
rubbish, is Fergie mad resting Ronnie, Tevez etc etc and then going on to say
what they would have done.

That's easy to do ... hindsight is a wonderful thing. You have all the facts before
you and time enough to make up any solution you wish to. Write it on a forum
and thats that - here's how you do it, thats what Fergie should have done and
now he better sort it out !!

None of them are coaches, none of them are qualified in this job and yet they
claim to know more than the best of the best.

It must be a nightmare for Fergie if he has an idea or plan he wants to try out.
Trying new things is pioneering and it's what makes winners. But how the hell
can anyone risk that if the fans jump on your back as soon as something doesn't
go their way ?

If it finished 1 - 1 at The Bridge Saturday - all we would hear right now is what a
genius Fergie is - he rested 4 top players and can you believe it - he won us the
League title. He's an absolute genious !!

He was 4 minutes from that scenario !! It was taken away by a penalty decision,
right or wong decision doesn't matter now, but a penalty !!!

Four very little minutes away from having page after page after page of praise
here on manutdtalk.com ... one dodgy penalty decsion now means he gets page
after page after page of being told he is inept with tactics, team selection is all
wrong, players are in the wrong positions etc etc.

He tried being a cheeky git against Chelsea by nicking a point and virtually
winning the League AND RESTING FOUR TOP STARS TOO.!!

I praise him for trying that ... the advantage of having fresh players against Barca
would have made a huge difference.

I just think it would be nice for people to recognise him for what he does when he
tries new tactics and new ideas - especially if they go wrong.
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Jazz 16 said:
Edit: Having just read the whole thread in its entirety, I feel slightly
embarrassed by my first post Versa, Desmondo and co. all make very good
points on the issue but I still stick to some of my main points (the ones where
I wasnt being insulting) on the issue.

My post was written in a hurry without having read too much before me
(which I should never have done) but hey we all make mistakes, and it was
directed at 'fans' and Gloryhunters in general. (not members that posted on THIS
thread), but threads across ALL United forums.
Apologies again, and I look forward to continuing on this debate over the week,
preferably after a United win :)

so I can rub it in all your faces..muah ;-)
Poof ... :p

If you let 'em 'Ave it !!!

Don't go back and apologise Jazzy ... too late ... you already showed us how you
feel ... I agree Versa and Desmondo do make valid points. But on numerous
threads all over this place there are those who do criticise Fergie and the team, but
never ever back it up with any posts of any substance !!

Just one liners ... Some have actually made it to 2 lines and they must collapse in
a heap after doing so much. These are the critics who get up my nasal passage.

So ... if you wont dig up the old posts - I guess I'll be doing it alone - Because you
can bet your ass I'll do it ... ;)

GLORY GLORY !!!

ON TO MOSCOW !!!

Shouldn't say that really. Wasn't it Hitler who said that, and look what happened to him ... :eek:
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versa said:
I do find your above bolded statement highly objectionable, and have observed that you have used it once too often enough for me to raise this matter.

Highly Objectionable ? You mean like I find other peoples comments highly objectionable ? So what's the problem ? That's 1 - 1 as I see it. You've observed I used it once too often - I'll [probably use it again so dont get stressed.

For goodness sake, you must be the only member/staff that uses such a basis on others in the forum.

And ........

But that does not surely mean that we can't express our opinions about Fergie's tactics or approach; whether we are qualified or not must be irrelevant.

You're absolutely 100% right ... So if you can swiftly point out to me where exactly I said that no one can comment like this - we can put this issue to bed. Oh wait, I didn't say that did I ? You seem to have seen something that's not actually there.

Fergie, himself, publicly admitted after the away Roma game that he should have switched to 4-4-2 sooner. Does that then mean that we can only say so after he has admitted his folly? Even if he had not publicly acknowledged it, many of us would have mentioned it in our posts too. Again, whether we are right or wrong is besides the point.

And I refer you to my last answer ...

But what is a forum for? Are not we independent fan with our own thoughts and opinions, and gather here to share, discuss and debate? Or should we become collective puppets, singing in one voice to the tune of Fergie and echoing in unison? Or should we ‘wisely' assume that Fergie must be right in any case and thus any bad result or performance must then be attributed to luck, referee or simply the players letting him down only? What is the point if we lament throughout our posts about the lack of luck or that the damned referee should be shot to r.i.p? And for the latter, can we blame Rooney for being ineffective as a midfielder when he is deployed there or Ronaldo lacking support upfront to be effective at all? Can't we even talk about it?

I again refer you to my above answer ... which will ultimately refer you to the one previous to that.

Please kindly refrain from using such basis on the forum. Don't kill a good, healthy debate on footie stuff here or kill the spirit of a forum. We are not school children.

There's a pattern developing here - your whole post is based on you 'assuming' I said people cannot post such things - Sadly though, I said nothing of the sort. In reality we are wasting an awful amount of time on a pointless post I'm afraid.

That is all. Just that one single point mainly.

OK well, thanks ...

P.S. If I have appeared too 'aggressive' on it, my sincere apology. But I thought what you said was a bit scornful.

Not at all Versa, very polite and a pleasure as always.
I would like to add, however, that I am right in what I said. Are there any qualified coaches here ? Is there anybody better than Fergie ?

Of course not, he's the best that ever lived, we all know that !!

If United win 6-0 tonight and Ronnie gets a hattrick ... everyone will be going crazy, we'll have another 15 Ronaldo threads, quite rightly too, and the whole place will be rocking , Ronnie this, Ronnie that and blah, blah, blah.....

There wont be a 'Fergie' thread !! There never is !! Why make one ... he's just the manager and the players did all the work .... or whatever !! No sadly there will be silence with respect to Fergie when we win ... but if we lose or 'only get a draw' ... out the closet they come - and point their fingers at him.

I never once said nobody can say anything Versa, sorry, what I am saying now though, is let's not all gang up on the guy when he makes a mistake, or when people think he has done so. In EVERY game the team is announced 1 hour before kick off .... In over 40 match day threads not ONE PERSON HAS CRITICISED HIS TEAM SELECTION. They use hindsight after the game to do so though. Easy isn't it !

He went to Barca and played for a draw and got it. Good result !! Draw every game away from home in Europe and win all your home games ..... You're in the Champions League Final - FACT !! But people criticised this good result ! United will be booking their tickets for Moscow tonight, to take part in the final of the biggest club football tournament in the World !! YES GO UNITED, GO WIN THIS THING !! How can the 'Fergie Bashers' justify their mistrust and non-belief in him then huh ? He could end up as manager of the best team in Europe in 3 weeks time ... but he knows nothing about tactics and his team selection is a bit crap !!!

Give me a break will you ... nice long post ... but thin on content sorry.
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akash_reds said:
questions should be asked....he tried to get a draw with a team with some our players rested...he thought he could draw the game and put pressure on chelsea....but it didnt go according to plan.....hopefully he wil understande that and go full out in the three matches and hopefuly a fourth.....
and he should try not to play defensive tactics in the home matches too..we should go all out and try to win the game!!!
And right on cue - we have another one :eek:

akash, are you really trying to tell me Fergie is not doing this right!!

Top of the League !!

Champions League semi final tonight .....

Four matches away from a miraculous double ....

And he is doing it wrong !!!

Sorry but that's just nonsense......
say it by all means, you have the right to say it or we'll have
Versa bearing down on us .... but excuse me while I laugh
my ass off !!

Justice agrees too, however he has problems controlling his use of expletives !!

Justice said:
You are a (deleted) idiot.

These "naive tactical mistakes" are press (deleted), he made no mistakes!!!

He played defensively against Barca because he knew our chance would come, it did, several times but we didn't put them away. He played Rooney out of position not because he's an idiot and thinks Wayne is a winger, because of his stupendously high work rate trying to cancel out Barca's attacking full backs and deadly wingers.

Against Chelsea he did not field a "weak" team he field our strongest possible! Yes you (deleted) heard it, our strongest team. Fletcher Anderson and Carrick are our biggest, burliest strong midfielders and if Scholes or Giggs was on they would have been kicked off the park by bully boys Mikel and Essien.

Try reasoning your own opinions before taking everything the press spoon-feed you as fact you ignorant (deleted).
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It would seem that the tactics of playing for the draw in Barca ... then resting 4
top players and attempting to 'nick a cheeky draw' at The Bridge ... and then
dumping Barca out the competition in the return leg ... WAS QUITE A CLEVER
PLAN .... !!!

We're now going to Moscow !!

But I don't see any praise for Fergie on these forums ...

Like I said before ... people are quick to jump down his throat ... and oh so slow
to give him the praise he deserves.

Anyway ... I'll try to make a thread for Fergie later ...

Perhaps it would be nice if the people below could say something nice about him
in the new thread.


sparkic said:
Just for once, the questions need to be asked of Manchester United boss Sir Alex
Ferguson rather than his Chelsea counterpart Avram Grant.

'There is no way I could have played the same eleven that started at Barcelona
on Wednesday night,' argued a defensive United boss. 'The travel takes
something out of you and we have to keep one eye on the return game this
coming Tuesday. It's not too far away don't forget. I have spoken all year about
the quality of the squad I have here and they had to respond when we needed
them.

Could it be that Alex Ferguson is contemplating finishing what looked set to be
great season without a trophy by the end of next weekend? Should such a
shocking scenario become reality, United's celebrated boss will only have himself
to blame.

I agree with this article from espn...it was Fergie's choice of team which lost us
the game and maybe will lose us the title...tactics was correct, choice of players -
WRONG! :mad:


versa said:
A few of the new threads are all on the same theme ie Fergie's
negative approach.

if you don't even aspire to win games, you will win nothing at the end of it al
l


That only makes me painfully wonder what if we had just played a 'normal' game
with an 'acceptable' desire to score a priceless away goal. If we could not, just
too bad; well and fine. But we did not even try and so will it come back to haunt
us?

Did he chicken out or knowingly tell us a big fat lie?

I hope Fergie will wake up his ideas now since he has already thrown away
whatever leeway or buffer we had - we have to absolutely play to win for the
next three, four games in a row now.
Not even breathing space allowed.
What fer make it so damned laborious for ourselves?!



Forever_United said:
I couldnt agree with you more there versa. you read my
mind, well said ! :)



sharafanta7 said:
i wasn't surprised Manchester United lost 4 two reasons:

1] Ronaldo didn't start (he hardly played)

2] Chelsea haven't lost at the bridge for 101 games...


versa said:
Saying things based on eventual result of each game or at end
of season has got absolutely nothing to do with what has or is happening.


fazman said:
my god this is a touchy subject as I said before its insantity to
call fergie


akash_reds said:
questions should be asked....he tried to get a draw with a
team with some our players rested...he thought he could draw the game and put
pressure on chelsea....but it didnt go according to plan.....hopefully he wil
understande that and go full out in the three matches and hopefuly a fourth.....
and he should try not to play defensive tactics in the home matches too..we
should go all out and try to win the game!!!
versa said:
Carly, sadly you do need to read the entire thread and other
related threads again (including your own writings) before you go ranting away
again (as usual). But if you think it is a waste of time, it is your own prerogative.
Just leave the posts here to dry for the rest. And issue-specific please. Look at
the bolded statement of yours that I quoted again. That was my only point.
Don't have to divert so far away.
Versa, sadly you need to start writing in a way I can understand and not in
riddles. This post should be in the riddles thread ... :confused: But if you think
I'm wrong that's your perogative, just think about it before you go ranting away
again (as usual).

'Issue specific'
'Look at your point'
'Don't divert' ... I just saw you dishing out some orders to another guy in another
thread somewhere, telling him what he should/should not write, LMAO !!

'Aye Aye Calm Down ... Calm Down !!

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versa said:
Lo and behold, this thread was closed and opened again. Magic....

Don't know who closed it - not magic really ... just one click and it's done ;)

1. When United played badly, negative comments and sentiments are but only natural and truthful because there are only genuine concerns and care for the team.

You mean like you asking: "Did he chicken out or is he a big fat liar !!!" Calling the manager of United 'gutless' and insinuating he is a liar shows genuine care and concern for the team does it ? It's offensive and derogatory !
It achives nothing ! The fact we are now going to Moscow it kind of makes you look a bit silly too ...


2. Whether United win the Double or not at the end of the season is a separate issue altogether with the earlier honest discussions there and then when United played badly.

Nonsense ! What he was doing when everyone was slagging him off ... was part of his long term plans for reaching Moscow and for winning the League again ! One went wrong, the other worked out perfectly. How can the Chelsea game and the Barca game(s) be called a seperate entity from the double ? You certainly have some bizarre ways of talking about things.

3. Don't have to spend so much time and effort to dig out posts after posts from genuine members that participated in those honest discussions. It hurts the spirit of a forum and only reflects the level of maturity and the sort of mentality the witch hunter sadly possesses.


Took about 3 minutes thats all, quote, copy/paste, quote ... etc etc. It was done in a lighthearted manner - so these guys can go along and say some good words about Fergie in the new thread then no one will have excuses to make a big deal of their criticisms earlier, which could happen, I've seen it !!! But with you here - stirring it up - yet again :rolleyes: maybe that wont happen now ... well done Mr Versa mission accomplished I guess. So given that I did it for good reasons I just explained ... It's hardly going to hurt the spirit of a forum as you insinuate does it ? No of course not ! Questioning my maturity and mentality is getting rather personal so I will choose to ignore those comments Versa .... I'll leave all that up to you OK.

P.S.
1. Just not to speak "in riddles" for the sole benefit of Carly, this is parallel to the point I last raised in this thread….. A senior staff of a forum telling members who expressed their honest opinions the following is indeed highly objectionable and does a FORUM no good at all: "None of them are coaches, none of them are qualified in this job and yet they claim to know more than the best of the best."

You, and only you say it is highly objectionable ... nobody else. I like the little quip "for the sole benefit of Carly" ... quite cute and very subtle way of saying I dont understand ... and you talk to me about maturity, LMAO.

2. Carly, thanks for reading each and every of my postings; you really flatter me. If you are bringing up about the “guy in another thread somewhere, telling him what he should/should not writeâ€, please also announce that the thread is the one on United being labeled as one-man team. Let the members at least read to understand the circumstance. Don't have to make it so ‘vague' and ‘mysterious' even though it was done and dusted there and then. Honesty is the best policy, remember?
I rarely have the time to read through your posts sorry. So the flattery is uncalled for ... hate to burst the bubble ... as for the "guy in the other post" well thats all it was to me, lol.....I have no idea where it was or what it was about........I make it 'vague' and 'mysterious' ... You've lost me again. It was the way you told someone how to make posts amused me, not the content of the post, that was a bit boring as it happens.

Much as I appreciate your attention on this thread and your enormous efforts in writing so much about me and my actions ... I'm getting a bit bored with it now so can't we write about something else ? Can't you just wait for my next post and jump on that and criticise me for that one - like you normally do. At least it changes the flavour of the posts huh ... :p
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