Race for the Golden Boot

RussianArmy · Mar 17, 2008

The race for the Golden Boot is hotting up as we reach the finishing straight, here are the contenders:

28: Huntelaar
24: C.Ronaldo
22:Luis Fabiano
21: N'Kufo
20: F.Torres
19: Adebayor
17: Benzema
16: Borielllo
15: Ibrahimovic, A.Mutu

It looks like Huntelaar is running away with it, but don't forget that goals in the dutch league are worth much less points than goals in the stronger leagues, so Huntelaar may not win it. So who will win it?

NateR · Mar 17, 2008

Its going to be tough, but i'd put my money on Ronaldo or Luis Fabiano. What an accomplishment it'd be for Ronaldo, a winger to win the European Golden boot. No non-striker has ever won it before, right?

pass_me_a_rizla · Mar 17, 2008

how has hunter scored 28 goals in the dutch league. One fo the weakest leagues in Europe: English, Spanish, Italian, French, German and then Dutch. Ronaldo has played a lot more games than has the Hunter anyway.

last i checked Ronaldon was leading the scoring charts. Surely ROnaldo has scorted more. He's scored a few goals in Europe our lad has. What has Hunter scored? 8 goals against a team 3xworse than Derby [potential Dutch league 1 winners there at pride park!].

I need verification on those figures.

yangch0000 · Mar 17, 2008

pass_me_a_rizla said:
how has hunter scored 28 goals in the dutch league. One fo the weakest leagues in Europe: English, Spanish, Italian, French, German and then Dutch. Ronaldo has played a lot more games than has the Hunter anyway.

last i checked Ronaldon was leading the scoring charts. Surely ROnaldo has scorted more. He's scored a few goals in Europe our lad has. What has Hunter scored? 8 goals against a team 3xworse than Derby [potential Dutch league 1 winners there at pride park!].

I need verification on those figures.

Ronaldo fan, you are overreacting a bit

Is it that important, the scoring champion?
By the way, PSV just knocked out spurs...

Guest · Mar 17, 2008

Ronaldo has 31 in total but these figure only seem
to take league goals into account mate. Dutch league
is crap.

pass_me_a_rizla · Mar 17, 2008

Hm. Maybe a Bolton hattrick will do
Lol. yes it does matter. 7goals ahead. It can not be. ROnaldo must be the top scorer in the EPl and in Europe.

yangch0000 · Mar 17, 2008

totti was the golden boot winner, what does he have?

Jazz 16 · Mar 17, 2008

Its only league goals that count and I think some are pretty harsh on the
Dutch League. Its a middle of the range league, and a lot better than some
others. Scoring 28 goals in any league is great work in my eyes.

Quick question.....how do they work out the points in the Dutch league?
Is there some formula used? I mean is Huntelaar still ahead or behind Ronnie?

akash_reds · Mar 18, 2008

it will be ronaldo or fabiano....goals in the dutch league are nothing much.....kuyt has scored lots of goals in the dutch league...but what has he done in the premier league

............fabiano seems to be a very good player....i remeber when i bought him in fifa 05 to my team...real good player for me then...but now he has done well in la liga too......but ronnie as a right winger has scored this much....i think ronnie just edges this one...

NateR · Mar 18, 2008

Jazz 16 said:
Its only league goals that count and I think some are pretty harsh on the
Dutch League. Its a middle of the range league, and a lot better than some
others. Scoring 28 goals in any league is great work in my eyes.

Quick question.....how do they work out the points in the Dutch league?
Is there some formula used? I mean is Huntelaar still ahead or behind Ronnie?

It is done on a points system.
There are 3 groups. Each depends on the strength of that league. The points each goal is worth depends on how strong the league is.

Strongest group
Each goal scored = 2 Points

Leagues In This Group: Spain, Italy, England,France

Intermediate:
Each goal scored - 1.5 points

Leagues: Dutch, Bulgarian, Austrian, Russia

Lowest:
Each Goal scored = 1 Point
Leagues: Croatian, Welsh, Irish etc

So on this points system, Ronaldo & Luis Fabiano are joint leaders at the moment with 44 Points and Hunterlaar comes in 2nd with 42 Points

You can see last years Table for the European Top scorers:
http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/news/kind=2/newsid=552524.html

Here is something which is more recent:
http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=82687

Although this list only goes up to 2005:
http://europeancups.altervista.org/rankings/country ranking 2005.htm

It should give you a good idea on how strong each league is and what points they'd get

Red Devil · Mar 18, 2008

RussianArmy said:
The race for the Golden Boot is hotting up as we reach the finishing straight, here are the contenders:

28: Huntelaar
22: C.Ronaldo, Luis Fabiano
21: N'Kufo
20: F.Torres
19: Adebayor
17: Benzema
16: Borielllo
15: Ibrahimovic, A.Mutu

It looks like Huntelaar is running away with it, but don't forget that goals in the dutch league are worth much less points than goals in the stronger leagues, so Huntelaar may not win it. So who will win it?

I was going to ask about that. A striker who scores plenty of goals in a "minor" league should not beat someone who scored slightly less in a "major" league.

christianoharleiro · Mar 18, 2008

Torres will win it I think, debut season in the EPL and he'll probably end up the top scorer.

Nemanjaaa · Mar 18, 2008

Well im hope Huntelaar wins it then Fergie might buy him

But i think Fabiano or Ronny will win it due to the points system considering A Alves got something like 38 compared to someones ... 24 ? and still didnt win it.

dlan4327 · Mar 19, 2008

I'd never considered the fact that Huntelaar could grab the ESM golden boot.

I shouldn't discount the smaller leagues. Well points system in mind I thought I'd make it clear for everyone.

C.Ronaldo, Luis Fabiano: 22 * 2 = 44 Points ==> England/Spain coefficient 2

Huntelaar: 28 * 1.5 = 42 Points ==> Eredivisie has a coefficient of 1.5

F.Torres: 20 * 2 = 40 Points ==> England coefficient 2

Adebayor: 19 * 2 = 38 Points ==> England coefficient 2

Benzema: 17 * 2 = 34 Points ==> French League Coefficient is 2

Borriello: 16 * 2 = 32 Points ==> Italy Coefficient is 2

N'Kufo: 21 * 1.5 = 31.5 Points ==> Eredivisie coefficient of 1.5

Ibrahimovic, A. Mutu: 15 * 2 = 30 Points ==> Italy coefficient 2

red_devils4life · Mar 19, 2008

FFS, the French Ligue 1 is classified in the same league as
Italian Serie A, Spanish Primera La Liga & Barclays English Premiership???
Thier league is an utter crap, and I'll only rate it as on-par with Dutch Eredivisie.

Anyway, I think the Luis Fabiano of FC Sevilla will emerge
victorious in the race for the European Golden Boot.
Last but not least, kudos to our very own CR7, Ronnie.
Seriously, his goal-scoring ratio in every game is simply incredible.
Nvm if he can't win it. Most importantly is that he helps United to
win both Premiership & Champions League trophy.
You hve done all of us proud. Really ue hve!!

dlan4327 · Mar 19, 2008

red_devils4life said:
FFS, the French Ligue 1 is classified in the same league as
Italian Serie A, Spanish Primera La Liga & Barclays English Premiership???
Thier league is an utter crap, and I'll only rate it as on-par with Dutch Eredivisie.

The coefficients are worked out by UEFA, so send you letters of disbelief to Platini.

In the meantime I'll try and explain the ranking system. All of the top five European leagues, Eng, Fra, Ger, Esp & Ita, have a coefficient of 2. Belgium is a strange one, some records say it has a coefficient of 2 others say 1.5, I'm inclined to believe the latter. There are a whole bunch on 1.5, Eredivisie along with leagues like Austria, Turkey, Switzerland, Poland & Bulgaria I think. Then there are the leagues you really feel sorry for with rankings of 1. Wales, Estonia & Strangely enough Croatia. You'd think they'd be 1.5 with clubs like Dinamo Zagreb. As for how they assign rankings wikipedia actually gets it right and explains it succinctly. The ESM Golden Shoe coefficients are worked out based on the leagues ranking in the UEFA coefficients. In other words the leagues ranking is determined by how well that leagues teams have performed in the past 5 seasons of European Competition. So basically yes, European results do matter more than domestic results, at least in determining where a league stands among it's peers. So that's probably why France and Germany have coefficients of 2, with teams like Bayern Munich, Werder Bremen & Lyon, Monaco & Marseille regularly performing in Europe it helps their rankings.

red_devils4life · Mar 19, 2008

dlan4327 said:
The coefficients are worked out by UEFA, so send you letters of disbelief to Platini.

It says something when a team is able to win the domestic league title 6 times on the trot with no any other real title challengers

RussianArmy · Mar 19, 2008

I wonder if the reason why the French League is ridiculously rated on a par with the top leagues is because Platini is A FRENCHMAN.

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