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Back in 2003, when United looked set to sign Ronaldinho, we were met with disappointment when the twenty three year old signed for Barca at the last minute. Despite our attempts to lure him to Manchester, offering out of favour keeper Barthez as part of the deal to PSG, he opted to put pen to paper on a five year deal in Spain instead. As United fans, we are now used to the so-called “transfer sagas†following the recent issues with John Obi Mikel, Owen Hargreaves and Carlos Tevez, but back then, we were just amateurs. Kenyon offloaded Beckham, failed in landing Ronaldinho, so then he turned his attention to Damien Duff. But Duff went to Chelsea, and Kenyon followed, leaving us in summer 2003 having to make do with Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, Bellion…oh, and Ronaldo.

In the June of 2003, Ronaldinho talked of his “burning desire†to join United, saying “I admire Manchester United and I love watching them play. Of course I would like to be at a great club like that — anybody would. The idea of joining Manchester United makes me dream, because they are a big, successful club and play my kind of football. I have a burning desire to be involved with a club that plays in big games all the time.â€

Ronaldinho's brother, Roberto Assis, who acts as his agent, said, “Ronaldinho wants to go to Manchester United, so at the moment it's just a question of waiting for the deal to be completed.â€
Whilst we had Ronaldinho onside, we pissed off the French club, and they were pretty relieved when Barcelona came in to match our £21 million bid. We were too cocky, setting deadlines and presuming the player was ours, despite refusing to confirm the offer we'd made verbally. Sir Alex Ferguson was sent over to sweeten the deal, but it was too little too late.

The summer of 2003 was the beginning of the end for United, the start of our “decline†as the press called it. Despite picking up a couple of domestic trophies, we couldn't win the league, and were failing miserably in Europe. Ronaldinho, in contrast, picked up two FIFA World Player of the Year awards (2004/2005), the European Player of the Year award (2005), two La Liga titles (2005/2006) and a European Cup (2006). United fans sat back and cringed, looking at all the player we could have signed was achieving.

Upon failing to land Ronaldinho or Duff, we settled for a relatively unknown Portugese lad, as I've already mentioned. Although he wasn't the instant success for United that Ronaldinho was for Barcelona, there is no question which player is currently on top when looking at the best players in the World. Reaching his peak in 2004/2005, aged twenty four/twenty five, Ronaldinho spent last season experiencing rifts with the manager and criticism from the Spanish press for putting on weight and not focussing on football.

Barcelona lost out on the title on the last game of the season, with former reds van Nistelrooy and Beckham lifting the La Liga title with Real Madrid. Ronaldinho managed to turn his season around, to some extent, finishing the third highest scoring La Liga, but the season ended with no trophies for the Brazilian.
In contrast, Ronaldo was United's highest goalscorer, in a season that saw them win the league, reach the semi finals of the European Cup, and the final of the FA Cup. He won the PFA Player of the Year, PFA Young Player of the Year, PFA Fans Player of the Year, Football Writers Association Player of the Year, Barclays Player of the Season, Portuguese Footballer of the Year, and earned a spot in the FIFPro World XI. He's gone from strength to strength, in spite of the booing and jeering he gets from every set of opposition fans.

Still, Ronaldinho has not been afraid to let his admiration of Manchester United be known since signing for Barcelona, and during last summer's World Cup, Ronaldinho always opted to play as Manchester United on the games console with Brazilian team mates.

However, hindsight is a wonderful thing, and whilst having Ronaldinho to plug the gap of us going without the title between 2004 and 2006 would have been well needed, there is no doubt in my mind that signing Ronaldo, for some £8 million less, was the better deal. But now, rumours of us signing the Brazilian have emerged again. Upon returning late from international duty, Ronaldinho was left out of the squad which lost to Villarreal at the weekend. His contract is due to expire at the end of this season and the Spanish outfit have been keen to reiterate Ronaldinho is going nowhere, too keen really. There have been a couple of statements a week coming from the Barcelona president/Rikjaard/Ronaldinho/Roberto Assis for over a month now, all insisting there is no problem between Ronaldinho and the club, and that he is staying put. Milan and Chelsea were the two clubs tipped to have an interest, which has intensified following the repeated criticism of the playmaker, and his admission that he is bothered by it.

Reports this week though suggest that United are now sniffing around and are keen to sign the player we failed to get five years ago. Apparently Gill met with Ronaldinho's brother, who pissed off Ferguson last time around with his greed, to assess what our chances of signing Ronaldinho were.

Now, if this is true (which admittedly, it probably isn't) would we want him?
1. Ferguson has spent twenty years trying to boot out the ego from United players, so signing a player with one of the largest egos in football would only throw a spanner in the works.

2. Ronaldo, Nani, Anderson, Tevez and Rooney are all twenty three and younger, and possess the qualities (and more) that we see from Ronaldinho. Would I swap Rooney or Ronaldo for Ronaldinho? Certainly not. So why spend a fortune in January for a player who would offer us less than players we already have?

3. How good would Ronaldinho be in the Premiership? There is no doubting the guy has a phenomenal talent, but would he be able to showcase that as successfully is a rougher, faster league?

4. Is Ronaldinho on his way down? Have we seen the best of him, and by signing him, we are setting ourselves up for the second biggest flop (after Shevchenko) in Premiership history?
So, what do you think? Do you think it would be worth it for United to try and sign Ronaldinho again?
 

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he is certainly past his best, but it don't think he could provide that past-his-best- form ronaldo ( luis ) can... Ronaldo has been past his best for the couple of years now, but still has managed to score around 20 goals per season
 

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A great player and one of the best in history but..........

Not for United I hope......

His name, image and ego would clash with everything we have right now - and why upset everything we have ?

No sorry Mr Ronaldhino......great as you are and brilliant as you have been - go somewhere else and leave us alone !!!
 

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This should be in Football Banter surely.
Besides we all ready had a similar discussion in the Transfer Talk bit, the overall answer was NO.
 

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The most ridiculous thing I have heard in my life, A fully fit Ronaldinho is better than almost any player in the history of football almost certainly gonna be in the hall of fame, Did you not see that last season just like the season before he scored over 20goals and 14assists from the wing all the while in the utmost eloguent and classy style.
 

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The most ridiculous thing I have heard in my life, A fully fit Ronaldinho is better than almost any player in the history of football almost certainly gonna be in the hall of fame, Did you not see that last season just like the season before he scored over 20goals and 14assists from the wing all the while in the utmost eloguent and classy style.
Here we see a classic FanBoy. Note the name of poster. One would think that at a United forum it is talking of Cristiano Ronaldo, but instead the prefix of 9 indicates that this is none other than a fat buck toothed Ronaldo fanboy. They have little or no respect for the actual game, a strong belief that one player can carry a team, will not follow one team but rather one player through out various clubs, and full heartedly believes wearing a shirt with there name on the back is adequate support of there favourite player. **** Off Mate. We werent even questioning his skill, which is VERY questionable at the moment, but questioning his MASSIVE ego, his brothers/agents morality of pouting his talented brother around Europe like a prostitute and the fact that he would cost around 50mil pounds.
 

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Here we see a classic FanBoy. Note the name of poster. One would think that at a United forum it is talking of Cristiano Ronaldo, but instead the prefix of 9 indicates that this is none other than a fat buck toothed Ronaldo fanboy. They have little or no respect for the actual game, a strong belief that one player can carry a team, will not follow one team but rather one player through out various clubs, and full heartedly believes wearing a shirt with there name on the back is adequate support of there favourite player. **** Off Mate. We werent even questioning his skill, which is VERY questionable at the moment, but questioning his MASSIVE ego, his brothers/agents morality of pouting his talented brother around Europe like a prostitute and the fact that he would cost around 50mil pounds.
look at my profile, do i look like the type of fella that runs around with some ROnaldo shirt? On top of that 50million pounds for a living legend? sounds like a bargain
 

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R_9-Ronaldo said:
look at my profile, do i look like the type of fella that runs around with some ROnaldo shirt? On top of that 50million pounds for a living legend? sounds like a bargain
Yes, yes you do. Living Legend? Did you hear this from Tribal Football? Do you even watch him play? He is very temperamental with his skill. He's not even the best player in the world tbh. Kaka Ronaldo and Messi are all better than him.
 

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Justice said:
Yes, yes you do. Living Legend? Did you hear this from Tribal Football? Do you even watch him play? He is very temperamental with his skill. He's not even the best player in the world tbh. Kaka Ronaldo and Messi are all better than him.
The story is BS but Ronaldihno is still one of the best players in the world and has been for years. Maybe not as good as the 3 you mention but 4th or so best in the world must be appreciated. He's still quality whatever way you want to look at it.
 

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The story is BS but Ronaldihno is still one of the best players in the world and has been for years. Maybe not as good as the 3 you mention but 4th or so best in the world must be appreciated. He's still quality whatever way you want to look at it.
Stop picking excuses in my argument :p
Yeah he is very good, but I gave the impression a lot of people were better, while only mentioning 3, the 3 who are actually better xD
 

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Stop picking excuses in my argument :p
Yeah he is very good, but I gave the impression a lot of people were better, while only mentioning 3, the 3 who are actually better xD
Im not picking excuses in your argument, Im just picking holes mate!
 

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Wouldn't it be fantastic to have, Giggs, Scholes, Hargreaves, Ronaldo, Rooney and Ronaldinho in the same team? We would rule europe without a doubt.
 

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Would you be willing to see your club pay £50m for a player who no longer has the pace, is not as quick as he used to be and is becoming injury prone; not too mention the fact that he goes down a little too easily now; not through any blatant "simulation" but because his legs are no longer much use?

No thanks. He was brilliant - once; but no longer.
 

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A couple of years ago I would have jumped at the chance to sign Ronaldinho but not now.

The only reason being that a couple of years ago we were struggling to put out a half-decent midfield (O'Shea and Giggs in the centre for example) whereas now we have a large squad of players to choose from.

I know we have a few injuries at the moment but do we really need to spend many millions on one player to add to Scholes, Hargreaves, Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher, Nani, Park, Ronaldo et al?
 

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Justice said:
Stop picking excuses in my argument :p
Yeah he is very good, but I gave the impression a lot of people were better, while only mentioning 3, the 3 who are actually better xD
are any of them preferred to a prime Ronaldinho? your a fool if you say yes
 
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