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that's the rational argument. why would he have any intention of leaving the european champions, the world champions and the winners of the best league in the world.
i just think he's irrational enough to believe that he would turn up there and all of a sudden real would be world beaters
I think its going to take a lot more than ronaldo to get them back up there again , the squad is not as young as it could be, and they will have to go through at least one more year of rebuilding.
But the thing is they have the money to buy another team instantly , i would not mind sneider plus lots of cash if ronny was silly enought to leave
 

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I always said he would stay last summer and I still think he WILL stay. Why would he go to Madrid anyway?
If they were winning trophies he would go, but they aren't so he will stay. Its selfish yeah, but that's Ronaldo. He could be part of something massive at United. He could go on to become a legend, out top goalscorer, our best player ever IF he stays and plays for the shirt. I can see him sticking around for another 3/4 years till Madrid sort themselves out. sad but true....
but while he remains a United player Ill be singing Viva Ronaldo!!
 

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Put it this way,if last season he was worth 70-100m,this season is half that,I can see a bid of 35-40mill coming in....God knows who will be coming in for him,every man and his dog I guess...
 

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Put it this way,if last season he was worth 70-100m,this season is half that,I can see a bid of 35-40mill coming in....God knows who will be coming in for him,every man and his dog I guess...
Tbh, i dont see anyone else will come after him even if there is, they wont beat whatever amount Madrid would have bid.

Not very sure about the price tag and if (assuming we finally will let him go) the club are willing to accept half the amount bearing in mind his age & the best he can give (like last season). But i wouldnt be surprise if he ended up in italy instead. Just as long as not at our neighbour next door. :thumbsdownsmileyani
 

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I was saying Roxii that alot of values are based on season upon season,and to go from superior heights to medioca in 3/4s of a season will have an affect on his price tag massively.I cannot see anything over 40million,Im not denying he HAS got talent,we all know what hes capable of,but thats how it goes.If you were into Horse Racing and had a horse that won every race one season,then the next season he'd come in near the back of the pack,race after race,it wouldnt be so tempting would it.
 

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I havent read it so sorry if i'm repeating but Am I the only one who thinks he will stay? hes getting a new contract apparently he has massive respect for Fergie and Madrid arent doing great either! Why would he leave for the sake of a few grand a week? While I'd be prepared to let him go for about 80 Million+ (well assuming we could get a good replacement + maybe more?) I'm not emotionally attached. He is amazing and we should try to hang on IF he wants to play for us - which I think he does but if he goes remember no player is bigger than Man U - not even Cantona was bigger (although he was about the same size :D)
 

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I think he will stay, Madrid are shit at the moment, alot depends on who wins the presidential election and perez is favourite to win and he wants kaka not Ronaldo. Ronaldo has said on numerous ocassions this season that he wants to stay. I think we should get him to sign his new contract, which he wants. People are saying hes having bad season, but is our top scorer in league and wasn't even at full fitness until December. Give the guy a break
 

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right here goes my big long rant about Ronaldo :p

IMO i think last season was the season to let him go especially if Madrid were willing to pay what was been reported(70 million+) as i think that would have enabled us to sign another world class winger and not only that maybe some of the money could have been used to pay off some of the clubs debts and if not like i say we could of got a world class winger and a world class striker(to replace his goals) could you imagine if we sold him and brought in say Ribery and Benzema and say we still had maybe another 10 million left over to sign a steady left winger where i think we are weak at the moment maybe valencia! would you have taken that? i know i would have!

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we didn't and hes still here and hes again this season our top scorer and 2nd in our assist list so how bad? people are complaining that hes not as good as last season but last season wasn't even his best season in terms of hoe he played IMO for me it was the 1st season when we got AIG as sponsors last season was just a freak season where he kept on turning up at the right place at the right time he developed if you will a strikers instinct! this season hes stayed out much further on the wing which has cut down his goal scoring threat but its for the benefit of the team! i don't understand how people are dissing him about his performances! i would like to see any player in the world have 3 men around you every time you get the ball and get kicked more times then most footballs(thanks for that saying zuco :p)

however i think if he is still unhappy and is still acting petulant as he has done many times this season and madrid come in with a bid of say 40 million i think we should accept as we could end up with him using that stupid clause (thee Webster clause isint it?) where he will buy out the reminder of his contract and we wont get a penny!but i don't see this happening as i think he will realize that it will be maybe another 5 years before Real Madrid are a world force again so i think Ronaldo will be a united player for another 3-5 years(hopefully)
 

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IMO i think last season was the season to let him go especially if Madrid were willing to pay what was been reported(70 million+) as i think that would have enabled us to sign another world class winger and not only that maybe some of the money could have been used to pay off some of the clubs debts and if not like i say we could of got a world class winger and a world class striker(to replace his goals) could you imagine if we sold him and brought in say Ribery and Benzema and say we still had maybe another 10 million left over to sign a steady left winger where i think we are weak at the moment maybe valencia! would you have taken that? i know i would have!
There is no way we wouldn't have had to pay an arm and a leg for either one of those guys, especially knowing that we got 70 million from Real. Without that huge payday, we had to pay 30 million for Berbatov. Had we gotten the 70 million from Real, either Ribery or Benzema would have cost at least 30-40 million (wouldn't have been shocked if Bayern or Lyon would have said 45-50 million) as clubs would be trying to get rich off of our payday as well.
 

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Disagree all you want, as much as you`re sure that he`ll leave this Summer, i`m sure as well that he`ll stay.
+1...he bring ManUtd game alive, and without him it's kind of borink.......yeah, we enjoyed him better last season, i think he should return as the really young ronaldo....never frustrated, sulk....
 

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There is no way we wouldn't have had to pay an arm and a leg for either one of those guys, especially knowing that we got 70 million from Real. Without that huge payday, we had to pay 30 million for Berbatov. Had we gotten the 70 million from Real, either Ribery or Benzema would have cost at least 30-40 million (wouldn't have been shocked if Bayern or Lyon would have said 45-50 million) as clubs would be trying to get rich off of our payday as well.
ya thats true much like what is happening City most clubs will rise their star players value by double just to make a profit! but couldn't we have kept the vale of his transfer undisclosed?i think even if we had got 70 million for him that would have given us 4-0 to spend on either Ribery or Benzeema and then another 20 on a top class winger or striker too!but now i dont think we will get much over 30 million for Ronaldo and IMO i see him staying here for another few seasons anyway
 

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agreed, fergie will not let him go.
Apart from that, i strongly think he is happy at United, and just because he may be under performing does not mean that his heart is somewhere else .. So everyone who is under performing means that they are not happy at United? Then we might be in big trouble .. But fortunately this is not the case.
Fans need to appreciate this player more, its not easy mantaining the class form he was with last season and the season before. It`s natural to lower down a little bit.
Let`s just say that altho "his heart is at RM :rolleyes:", he is still our top scorer this season :thumbsup:
 

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Im not even that happy when he scores tbh. Im just hapy that United are winning. Treating him just a s another player. He will leave. I have a gut feeling. And Madrid are calling. :bye2:

P.S : I wanted a bye smiley but the only thing the forum has is one with tears. Im not actually sad. :thumbsup:
 

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i'm happy with his goal tally this season and his performances have picked up- this WASN'T just meant to be a lets knock ronnie thread, but every now and again you do get the feeling we are just been softened up for the inevitable and its that i find annoying.

some of his frustrations i do get yes, but using them as excuses is pathetic, every player at the top of their game has had to go through what he has gone through this season- most of the truly great ones have knuckled down and dealt with it and come out the other side even greater players. there are some time when the excuses and frustrations this season just seem to be there as excusus and reasons as to why he should leave.
 

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Hasnt he already said he will stay next season? Hopefully he will have a fully fit pre-season and be back on track at his best next year.
 

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Hasnt he already said he will stay next season? Hopefully he will have a fully fit pre-season and be back on track at his best next year.
Let`s not rely on what he said, as he said many things last Summer and has left me gutted all Summer. But yes, he will definitely stay.
 

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REAL MADRID BACK FOR RONALDO | Spanish giants will make new £100m move for United superstar | Sport | News Of The World

MAKE-UP, lights, camera, action - the Cristiano Ronaldo Show is about to enter its second season.

Stand by for the Manchester United star to once more start polishing his ego, fluttering his eyelashes and wooing would-be suitors.

His admirers have not changed. Real Madrid continue to be attracted by the prospect of securing a player who has become World and European Footballer of the Year since they last tried to sign him.

United are fooling themselves if they think that Real's pursuit of the Portuguese winger ended when Sir Alex Ferguson chased them away last summer.

The Spanish giants will be back in the close season with a renewed passion and an £100million package to try to entice club and player.

But the seduction process has already begun. The Real key figure has changed but the aim remains the same. Former president Ramon Calderon has left centre stage, ousted in a vote-rigging scandal during club elections last year..

The contest to replace him is already under way with Florentina Perez ready to stand for office, three years after leaving his Bernabeu seat of power.

Perez wants to bring the glamour and Galacticos back to the Spanish capital and Ronaldo's name is the top one on his election ticket.

So, too, is the Brazilian superstar Kaka - another £100m target - while Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas has also been linked but is more likely to be attracted to his former club Barcelona.

Perez will not present his package to the Real electorate until all his potential signings are in place. But he is convinced he will see off any rival candidates and win the keys to the boardroom.

Steven Gerrard was to be his third star capture but the Liverpool skipper has kicked that idea into the long grass by pledging the rest of his career to the Anfield club.

Ronaldo's attempts at a similar show of loyalty have been less convincing. He contends he is happy at United but, of the future, adds: "Only God knows about that."

There are echoes in that remark of those he made a year ago when his commitment to the United cause gradually wavered to the point where he admitted he wanted to join Real.

Spanish sources have been insisting for several months that a deal has been struck between Madrid, United, Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes, a claim that has been vehemently denied at Old Trafford.

But ex-president Calderon recently told a Spanish radio station that his legacy to the club was to have clinched Ronaldo's arrival this summer. And the winger's international team-mate and Real defender Pepe believes he is on his way to Spain.

Pepe said: "Cristiano wants to play in the Santiago Bernabeu. I would love him to join Madrid. He has already said that he wants to come and I hope that next season he is with us."

Claims that Ronaldo is not receiving sufficient protection from Premier League referees are being interpreted in Spain as a further sign that he will leave United in the summer.

A new wave of media frenzy broke out in the Spanish capital this week when it was revealed that he intends to open a branch of his chain of fashion stores in Madrid. There are also claims he has plans to open shops in Paris, Milan, Madrid, London, Prague, Berlin, Tokyo and Los Angeles but, significantly, not in Manchester.

A Spanish source told Sport of the World: "There is a cleverly conceived plan in place for Cristiano to join Real.

"The reports that he is unhappy with the treatment he gets in England is part of it and will be used as a lever for him to get his dream move to Madrid.

"Of course, it will have to be achieved with United's approval but part of the strategy is to keep chipping away at their resistance until they give in."

Sir Alex Ferguson will fight tooth and nail to keep his star player from the clutches of a club he has come to despise for their underhand tactics.

And United have been drawing up a new deal which could earn him up to £200,000-a-week as a reward for his status as the world's best player.

That will provide the ultimate test of Ronaldo's fidelity.

Any hesitation on his part will begin a re-run of the saga which stretched through last summer.

For there to be a different ending he will need to utter the words which so far he has failed to deliver: "I want to leave Manchester United."

If he does the curtain will fall. And it will be exit, stage left, Cristiano Ronaldo.





Says there Madrid will offer £100m! If they offered anywhere near that I'd take it in a heartbeat!
 

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REAL MADRID BACK FOR RONALDO | Spanish giants will make new £100m move for United superstar | Sport | News Of The World

MAKE-UP, lights, camera, action - the Cristiano Ronaldo Show is about to enter its second season.

Stand by for the Manchester United star to once more start polishing his ego, fluttering his eyelashes and wooing would-be suitors.

His admirers have not changed. Real Madrid continue to be attracted by the prospect of securing a player who has become World and European Footballer of the Year since they last tried to sign him.

United are fooling themselves if they think that Real's pursuit of the Portuguese winger ended when Sir Alex Ferguson chased them away last summer.

The Spanish giants will be back in the close season with a renewed passion and an £100million package to try to entice club and player.

But the seduction process has already begun. The Real key figure has changed but the aim remains the same. Former president Ramon Calderon has left centre stage, ousted in a vote-rigging scandal during club elections last year..

The contest to replace him is already under way with Florentina Perez ready to stand for office, three years after leaving his Bernabeu seat of power.

Perez wants to bring the glamour and Galacticos back to the Spanish capital and Ronaldo's name is the top one on his election ticket.

So, too, is the Brazilian superstar Kaka - another £100m target - while Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas has also been linked but is more likely to be attracted to his former club Barcelona.

Perez will not present his package to the Real electorate until all his potential signings are in place. But he is convinced he will see off any rival candidates and win the keys to the boardroom.

Steven Gerrard was to be his third star capture but the Liverpool skipper has kicked that idea into the long grass by pledging the rest of his career to the Anfield club.

Ronaldo's attempts at a similar show of loyalty have been less convincing. He contends he is happy at United but, of the future, adds: "Only God knows about that."

There are echoes in that remark of those he made a year ago when his commitment to the United cause gradually wavered to the point where he admitted he wanted to join Real.

Spanish sources have been insisting for several months that a deal has been struck between Madrid, United, Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes, a claim that has been vehemently denied at Old Trafford.

But ex-president Calderon recently told a Spanish radio station that his legacy to the club was to have clinched Ronaldo's arrival this summer. And the winger's international team-mate and Real defender Pepe believes he is on his way to Spain.

Pepe said: "Cristiano wants to play in the Santiago Bernabeu. I would love him to join Madrid. He has already said that he wants to come and I hope that next season he is with us."

Claims that Ronaldo is not receiving sufficient protection from Premier League referees are being interpreted in Spain as a further sign that he will leave United in the summer.

A new wave of media frenzy broke out in the Spanish capital this week when it was revealed that he intends to open a branch of his chain of fashion stores in Madrid. There are also claims he has plans to open shops in Paris, Milan, Madrid, London, Prague, Berlin, Tokyo and Los Angeles but, significantly, not in Manchester.

A Spanish source told Sport of the World: "There is a cleverly conceived plan in place for Cristiano to join Real.

"The reports that he is unhappy with the treatment he gets in England is part of it and will be used as a lever for him to get his dream move to Madrid.

"Of course, it will have to be achieved with United's approval but part of the strategy is to keep chipping away at their resistance until they give in."

Sir Alex Ferguson will fight tooth and nail to keep his star player from the clutches of a club he has come to despise for their underhand tactics.

And United have been drawing up a new deal which could earn him up to £200,000-a-week as a reward for his status as the world's best player.

That will provide the ultimate test of Ronaldo's fidelity.

Any hesitation on his part will begin a re-run of the saga which stretched through last summer.

For there to be a different ending he will need to utter the words which so far he has failed to deliver: "I want to leave Manchester United."

If he does the curtain will fall. And it will be exit, stage left, Cristiano Ronaldo.





quoSays there Madrid will offer £100m! If they offered anywhere near that I'd take it in a heartbeat![/te]
 
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