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superguy said:
Andy Cole and Teddy Sheringham never got on very well, but Fergie did not sell either of them until they were past there best. There are no excuses, it was a bad error of judgement by Fergie to sell Ruud a world class goalscorer for only
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So bad of an error that we won the league straight afterwards.
 

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Keano's fan said:
So bad of an error that we won the league straight afterwards.
And scored more goals more points than previous years?? Also havent we scored most goals this year(may be wrong dont slaughter me)
 

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There have been few players who have stolen the back page headlines quite like Cristiano Ronaldo. This season has seen the Portuguese international put in a series of spellbinding performances, scoring an astounding 27 goals in the process.

However, in the background of the media frenzy surrounding the Manchester United No. 7 stands a figure that has been just as crucial to the Red Devil’s progress this term.

In Wayne Rooney, Manchester United can point to the source of their inspiration, and the heartbeat of the side. This state of affairs has seen the fiery Liverpudlian play just as big a role as the Red Devils flying winger in shaping United’s results, even though he has scored fewer than of Ronaldo's goals.

Indeed, the story of Manchester United’s season can be told by the statistic that in the four games that they have lost in the Premier League so far, Wayne Rooney has been absent from them all.

A broken metatarsal received in the opening day fixture against Reading kept Rooney out of the first month of season, and thus the first of two derby defeats to Manchester City. November saw an ankle damaged in training lead to another spell on the sidelines and a further defeat away to Bolton Wanderers.

Another Rooney absence, this time due to a virus, saw him miss United’s 2-1 defeat to bogey team West Ham United, whilst a ridiculous dive against Tottenham Hotspur resulted in a one match ban that left Rooney in the stands as Sven Göran Erikkson’s Manchester City completed a famous double over their illustrious Mancunian rivals.

Rooney's impact can also be measured by the fact that during the 11 games that he has managed to miss this season, United have averaged only a paltry goal a game. When contrasted to the 57 goals in 23 games that a Rooney inspired Manchester United have scored, the difference is clear for all to see.

This difference in performance is further highlighted by United’s bluntness in front of goal in their four league defeats, with Cristiano Ronaldo’s headed goal against West Ham United and Michael Carrick’s last minute consolation against Manchester City being the only times that they managed to trouble the scoresheet.

But why has the presence of Wayne Rooney been such an important factor in Manchester United’s season when Cristiano Ronaldo has scored so many times?

It has been an obvious element of United’s attacking play that when Rooney has not played a distinct lack of energy and directness has been present. Indeed, in all of United’s defeats this season the displays have been insipid and distinctly un-inspiring, featuring wayward passes and moves that have fizzled out far too easily.

This is due to the fact that when Manchester United are without Rooney and his boundless energy, Carlos Tevez and Cristiano Ronaldo simply lack the spark to ignite Manchester United’s goal threat against compact and dogged opposition.

The continued absence of Louis Saha has also seen United resort to playing Carlos Tevez alone up front when Rooney has been missing, a role the diminutive Argentine is simply not cut out to perform.

Unlike Rooney, Tevez lacks the strength to be able to hold up the ball for oncoming midfielders, with the Argentine’s style of play revolving firmly around the beautiful interplay with a strike partner. This has seen United prove to be incapable of keeping hold of the ball around the opposition’s penalty area, and has made them a much simpler proposition to deal with.

Sir Alex Ferguson's decision to play his central midfielders in much deeper roles than in previous seasons has also compounded United’s difficulties when Rooney is missing, as Tevez has struggled badly for support, and led to him being easy pickings for dominant centre halves such as Manchester City’s Richard Dunne and Micah Richards.

Another important feature of Wayne Rooney’s personality is the ‘never say die’ approach he brings to the game. With Rooney emitting this desire to win from every pore of his body, he visibly inspires his United team mates to perform to their highest level.

When one compares this to the way that Cristiano Ronaldo behaves in the face of adversity, the contrast is remarkable. For whilst Rooney is capable of dragging his team mates along with him, producing spell binding moments of defiance such as his last minute winner against AC Milan in the Champions League last year, Cristiano Ronaldo in Sunday’s defeat to Manchester City seemed to just exacerbate the difficulties faced by the Red Devils. Too often he looked to the referee for non-existent free kicks and sauntered back from offside positions rather than concentrating on the job at hand. This was certainly not the inspirational showing that a nominee for world player of the year should exhibit.

It is an unarguable fact that Cristiano Ronaldo is a more naturally gifted footballer than Wayne Rooney. However, for United’s prospects for the rest of the season it is vital that the repeated injury and disciplinary problems that have struck Rooney with a worrying regularity must stop.

If this occurs, then the already-overflowing Manchester United trophy room can expect to see a few new additions to its impressive collection, undoubtedly inspired by their talismanic number 10. If not, a distinct sense of frustration at what could have been achieved will surely envelope all those associated with the club.
absolutely brilliant. finally somebody has articulated what Rooney is about and how much he means to man united. the city game was unfortuanetely the most obviuos illustration of as mel c sang "baby when you're gone" and gives the true worth of how much more important he is vis-a-vis ronaldo to the functioning of the team.I disagree on just one thing though, I for one do believe wazza hasas much ability as the madeiran.I don't think the latter for example or anybody else for that matter would score goals like the goal form the half way line against Middlesborough in the cup game a couple of years ago or the chip that beat david james in the cup last season.he may not be a goal machine or free kick specialist like ronaldo but he is a genius with supreme ability.
 

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Horrible, horrible thread which sums up some of United's 'support' in recent years.

I am absolutely astonished and miffed at this thread.

Wayne Rooney is a fantastic player who will go on to be a legend for this club. Show respect.
 
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Horrible, horrible thread which sums up some of United's 'support' in recent years.

I am absolutely astonished and miffed at this thread.

Wayne Rooney is a fantastic player who will go on to be a legend for this club. Show respect.
Have to agree, I think the thread starter is a wind up
merchant as most of his threads are anti-United!!
 

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Have to agree, I think the thread starter is a wind up
merchant as most of his threads are anti-United!!
I'd can him straight away then, this for me is far worse than people calling eachother soft insults. :D

This is beyond blasphemy!
 

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are you stupid....

rooney aint no natural goalscorer dont mean he cant score them..he is the only striker who comes back and helps the defence...whenever losing the ball he runs at it an tries to win it back..most strikers are lazy and wait for the midfielder to get it back...spending 30 million on him is worth it...hes only 22 and still has a career in front of him..he scores imporant goals...hes tough and holds the ball off and defenders have trouble with him...ronaldo and him are a great partnership as well as tevez and rooney...without him we wont have the strike partnership we have

you dont know what u chattin about....prick
 

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Superguy, your argument is flawed. You say if we had another striker to fill in for Rooney, then we would have won against the teams we lost to. Well, since we have Ronaldo scoring all these goals for us, it shouldn't matter if we have Rooney in the team or not according to you. Now, while I agree with the stats, I also agree if we had a striker to fill in for Rooney while he was injured, we might have been able to do better without him. The stats only tell half the story, which is something you realized. However, there is something else. Sometimes, the statistics don't tell the story at all. There are intangibles in football. Things that can't be measured. The passion that a certain player brings into a game, the confidence to be able to do anything, the will to continue no matter what the odds or situation. Few people are gifted such intangible talents, and Manchester United are lucky to have had as many as we did. Cantona and Keane are two examples. And I have no doubt in my mind that in the future, Rooney will be right up alongside them. And another thing that I hate is people calling him the White Pele. We have to stop calling him the White Pele, just as other fans need to stop calling Messi the next Maradona. They aren't the next anything. Rooney isn't the next anybody. He's Rooney. And that's that.
 

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I cannot believe we paid £30m for this guy, watching him is very frustrating. He consistently makes the wrong decisions when he is in a goal scoring position. He does not know how to finish at all. I am worried that we are relying on him to play up front as the main striker, if we got one chance in a match I would not want it to fall to him. He is turning into an expensive version of Alan Smith, lots of effort and running but not much quality. The job of a striker is to score goals and Rooney is not doing the job, he spends most of his time running around like a headless chicken making tackles. Van Nistelrooy would of had at least two goals last night, why oh why did we sell Ruud for only £10m.
We just got trolled.
 

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I am a cult hero here. This website would be falling apart at the seams without me. Perhaps that should be my next thread.
 
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