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The departure of van Nistelrooy wasn't a sign that United didn't need a central striker - it was a sign they they needed a different one"

In the wake of Ruud van Nistelrooy's £11m switch to Real Madrid there were a lot
of comments asking where Manchester United's goals would come from. Van
Nistelrooy had bagged a phenomenal 150 goals in 5 seasons, despite missing
significant chunks through injury and being out of favour at Old Trafford for large
parts of his final season. Those goals compare very favourably with Thierry Henry
who scored 226 times in his 8 seasons at Arsenal.

Although last season the need for a striker seemed moot as United crashed in
over 80 league goals without recourse to the Dutchman, they still had Henrik
Larsson for 13 games; Alan Smith played in 19 - most notably against Roma - and
Louis Saha drifted in and out of the treatment room yet still appeared 34 times.

All three acted as the very front of the team - and in appearing over 60 times
between them they replaced van Nistelrooy positionally, but played a much more
selfless game. They contributed fewer goals in a team that overall scored many
more. So the departure of van Nistelrooy wasn't a sign that United didn't need a
central striker - it was a sign they they needed a different one.

In 2007/8 Larsson is obviously unavailable, but now Smith has also been sold on
and Giuseppe Rossi has been allowed to leave. With Dong and Campbell not
threatening the first team this really leaves a strikeforce to be created from the
talents of Wayne Rooney, new signing Carlos Tevez and Louis Saha. United have
plenty of creative player who score goals in Cristiano Ronaldo, Paul Scholes, Ryan
Giggs and Nani - but one of Rooney, Tevez and Saha needs to be the point man.

With Louis Saha so consistently injured there is real need to draft in a player who
can operate as a target man and allow the team to join the attack.

Over the last couple of league games the Tevez and Rooney partnership has
shown signs of coming good with the pair scoring five between them. But an
interesting caveat is that in both games United played without a defensive
midfielder. The pivotal figure in this equation is Anderson who has played
alongside Scholes in both games; this has created a lot more chances - but also
left gaps at the back which better teams would have better exploited.

This is fine if United are prepared to trade goals with every decent team they
play - but not if they want to have success in Europe. One or two deep lying
midfielders are essential in Europe; which points to the need for a striker who
can hold the ball up until help arrives.

If Saha can regain fitness he has all the physical attributes to be a star but he
has barely averaged 20 starts a season at United despite being first choice for
the majority of the time.

If United want success in Europe they must look to bring in an experienced target
man in January; failing that they have to get Saha consistently fit or trust that
they can outscore the likes of Milan whilst playing without defensive cover.
 

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We definitely need to bring in a striker in January. I'm still hopeful that Saha will feature regularly this season but we need a better 4th striker than Dong FFS!
 

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im countin on the penny droppin in dongs brain rather than buyin a new striker in jan. next summer however, who knows who gonna be firin, could be anyone, huntelaar might be a little to similar to ruud, is that what we need, my own opinion is we need a player like saha except fit
 

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Aaron92 said:
I wish we would have got Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, he's perfect for the role if you ask me.
I like the look of Huntelaar. He has an outstanding goal scoring record in the Eredivisie but I'm just a bit worried that he's too similar to RVN.

I'm not sure he'd fit in with our fast paced, interchangeable positions and heavy emphasis on movement style of play.

I think United's scouts will definitely have taken a good look at him though.

I'm fairly sure we'll move for a striker in January - it'll be interesting to see who it is.
 

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I really don't think we will get a striker in january maybe in the summer but not january me thinks! :)
 

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carlyluvsunited said:
The departure of van Nistelrooy wasn't a sign that United didn't need a central striker - it was a sign they they needed a different one"

In the wake of Ruud van Nistelrooy's £11m switch to Real Madrid there were a lot
of comments asking where Manchester United's goals would come from. Van
Nistelrooy had bagged a phenomenal 150 goals in 5 seasons, despite missing
significant chunks through injury and being out of favour at Old Trafford for large
parts of his final season. Those goals compare very favourably with Thierry Henry
who scored 226 times in his 8 seasons at Arsenal.

Although last season the need for a striker seemed moot as United crashed in
over 80 league goals without recourse to the Dutchman, they still had Henrik
Larsson for 13 games; Alan Smith played in 19 - most notably against Roma - and
Louis Saha drifted in and out of the treatment room yet still appeared 34 times.

All three acted as the very front of the team - and in appearing over 60 times
between them they replaced van Nistelrooy positionally, but played a much more
selfless game. They contributed fewer goals in a team that overall scored many
more. So the departure of van Nistelrooy wasn't a sign that United didn't need a
central striker - it was a sign they they needed a different one.

In 2007/8 Larsson is obviously unavailable, but now Smith has also been sold on
and Giuseppe Rossi has been allowed to leave. With Dong and Campbell not
threatening the first team this really leaves a strikeforce to be created from the
talents of Wayne Rooney, new signing Carlos Tevez and Louis Saha. United have
plenty of creative player who score goals in Cristiano Ronaldo, Paul Scholes, Ryan
Giggs and Nani - but one of Rooney, Tevez and Saha needs to be the point man.

With Louis Saha so consistently injured there is real need to draft in a player who
can operate as a target man and allow the team to join the attack.

Over the last couple of league games the Tevez and Rooney partnership has
shown signs of coming good with the pair scoring five between them. But an
interesting caveat is that in both games United played without a defensive
midfielder. The pivotal figure in this equation is Anderson who has played
alongside Scholes in both games; this has created a lot more chances - but also
left gaps at the back which better teams would have better exploited.

This is fine if United are prepared to trade goals with every decent team they
play - but not if they want to have success in Europe. One or two deep lying
midfielders are essential in Europe; which points to the need for a striker who
can hold the ball up until help arrives.

If Saha can regain fitness he has all the physical attributes to be a star but he
has barely averaged 20 starts a season at United despite being first choice for
the majority of the time.

If United want success in Europe they must look to bring in an experienced target
man in January; failing that they have to get Saha consistently fit or trust that
they can outscore the likes of Milan whilst playing without defensive cover.
What? What daft **** wrote this? Someone who obviously hasnt been watching United all season long. No defensive cover? Half the time we play 4-5-1! What a ****ing bellend.

VDS
Nev-Vid-Rio-Evra
Carrick-Hargo
Ronaldo-Scholes-Nani
Rooney

We played that for most of season, even more so in Europe and I can CLEARLY see 2 defensive midfielders. Thats cover enough for me thanks.

Uninformed Media ****s spouting shit, once again.

SolskjaertheLegend said:
Berbatov - i garentee it now

He will be a Man Utd player this season.
He's even fallen out with Jol now!!! =] =] =]
 

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Justice said:
What? What daft **** wrote this? Someone who obviously hasnt been watching United all season long. No defensive cover? Half the time we play 4-5-1! What a ****ing bellend.

VDS
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Carrick-Hargo
Ronaldo-Scholes-Nani
Rooney

We played that for most of season, even more so in Europe and I can CLEARLY see 2 defensive midfielders. Thats cover enough for me thanks.

Uninformed Media ****s spouting shit, once again.
Read it again......

You have missed the point this guy was making.

The Times wrote this by the way.

SolskjaertheLegend said:
Berbatov - i garentee it now

He will be a Man Utd player this season.
I kept saying he would be United last summer - I was convinced of it.

So yes this year he surely comes to us !!!
 

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SolskjaertheLegend said:
Berbatov - i garentee it now

He will be a Man Utd player this season.
Yeah he is the man who we need, at united he can be the top league goal scorer
Totenham are dead right now he was on bench last night & played less than 15 mins
 

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SolskjaertheLegend said:
Berbatov - i garentee it now

He will be a Man Utd player this season.
He looked so pissed off and quite disinterested when he played last night. Jol had to ask him 3 times to warm up. He has clearly fallen out with him as well. Imo Berbatov is the missing link that will make Man Utd the best team in the world. I have been harping on about him for ages now and will be so happy if he ever signed for us. Easily one of he classiest strikers in world football.
Besides him Id be happy with Huntelaar, Anelka or even Owen.
 

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I'd prefer Anelka, He has been scoring so many goals at Bolton without any service(he set up his own goals, No assists for other players) Just imagine how much he's gonna score if he comes to united, He can play beutifull football similar to Henry's and with the service he would get at united he will be scoring goals for fun.

for me: -

-----------------------------------Anelka--------------------------------------------------
------------Tevez--------------------------------Rooney--------------------------------
Nani-----------------------------------------------------------------Ronaldo-------------
---------------------------------Owen Hargreaves------------------------------------
-----------Evra------------------Vidic----------------Ferdinand------------Neville
-----------------------------Schmeichal(hopefully)----------------------------------
 

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carlyluvsunited said:
Read it again......

You have missed the point this guy was making.

The Times wrote this by the way.
I know what he's saying. He's just completely wrong. We've conceded 3 this season. None in Europe. Everything that man has said is wrong.
 
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