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To the spud's players that have to starve....a burger.:)


JUANDE RAMOS has more trouble on his plate — after Spurs stars complained they are STARVING.
The basement boys feel their manager’s strict diet regime has left them feeling lacklustre during matches.


One top player said: “We’re feeling hungry going into games and that can’t be good. We get lots to eat after matches but we want something before as well.”

Angry squad members held a secret summit about the grub snub before the 1-0 home defeat against Hull a fortnight ago.

And several stars have met Ramos individually to express concerns about their eating habits.

Ramos and his Spanish nutritionist Dr Antonio Escribano imposed the measures after arriving at White Hart Lane a year ago.

Escribano — dubbed Dr Baby Food — worked with Ramos at his previous club Seville.

The food guru’s methods include pulping vitamins, minerals, fruit and vegetables and giving players a ‘mulch’ which many compare in texture and taste to baby food.

But he is also strict about how protein, carbohydrate, caffeine, fruit, fish, meat and vegetables are mixed at meal times.

Each Spurs player has been issued with a personal dossier, giving them strict instructions on what and when they can eat.

They are even told in which order to consume certain food groups.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1825370.ece
 

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before two years Spurs complained that the food is very toxic and now what ? :p

Hungry better than Diarrhea :D


i do actually think what Ramos do is good

he gives them healthy food in good amounts they need to provide energy

tasty or not this is what you pay to be an athlete
 

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Ramos will get all kinds of critical comments as long as he's not helping the team to win. Also not urging to learn the language is not going to help Ramos.

He'll soon be back in Spain.
 

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What will the complain about next eh???

Anyway Spurs will pick up their first 3 points of the season tomorrow against Stoke!
Somebody said on this thread that Spurs will go down!! Its only 7 games into the league.... Spurs wont be anywhere near the drop come the end of the season
 

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Haha
They will faint on the pitch next ... So spurs to finish bottom, 2nd from or 33rd from the bottom this season ???
 

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They'll be blaming the ladies at the laundry room next - for using the wrong type of detergent :rolleyes:


Proper change needs time. Ramos has shows that he can achieve a lot without the financial means of the top clubs. The players and that club directors need to trust him.

And the Spurs fans need to wake up to reality that they're never going to be a great club, so they might as well support a manager, who has won the UEFA cup twice.

As we speak Martin Jol's HSV are still top of the German Bundesliga :D
 

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Once Juande gets fired, Spurs will get back on track, probably finish 7th or so. My God, that burger looks tasty!
 

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"pizzagate" was much better....:D
rumour has it that this was the accused pizza:
Carne Amore
Bianconi pizza sauce, grated mozzarella, slices of succulent ham, chilli minced
pork, smoked bacon pieces, and Krainer pepperoni covered in an extra layer of cheese on top
*drools*
 

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Jazz 16 said:
rumour has it that this was the accused pizza:
Carne Amore
Bianconi pizza sauce, grated mozzarella, slices of succulent ham, chilli minced
pork, smoked bacon pieces, and Krainer pepperoni covered in an extra layer of cheese on top
*drools*
Oh great...here I came with sharp arguments but now I have to go and make me something to eat. Just great! :D
 

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Ramos has seven days to save his job: Spurs players already talking of Bilic



A little over 30 months ago, Tottenham were 90 minutes away from qualifying for the Champions League. But when Juande Ramos's hapless, winless, bottom-of-the-table side run out at Stoke's Britannia Stadium this afternoon, the same amount of time will separate them from recording the worst start to a season in club history.
Defeat today by a team just one place above them in the Premier League would leave one of England's most famous clubs, the first of the modern era to do the Double, facing the prospect of being relegated for the first time in more than 30 years.

Only one team with two or fewer points after their opening eight Premier League games - Southampton 10 years ago - have avoided the drop. Ramos is the fifth permanent manager in whom Tottenham have placed their fickle trust in the past decade, and for all the board's desperate desire that he will justify the hamfisted way they recruited him to succeed Martin Jol this time last year, he may have as little as a week to convince them not to seek a sixth.
That man, if elements within the dressing-room have their way, could be Croatia's highly regarded coach Slaven Bilic. His name is being openly discussed among the unsettled squad and there is strong support for Bilic's positive management style.
Tottenham's two Croatia players, Luka Modric and Vedran Corluka, have been quizzed by team-mates over the possibility of their countryman becoming the club's would-be rescuer and while Bilic, who played here with West Ham and Everton, has previously rebuffed approaches to manage Manchester City and the Hammers, he would find the chance to manage two of his national team's star players in the Premier League irresistible.
The fate of Ramos looks increasingly likely to be decided over the next seven days. If Tottenham go through today's match at Stoke, Thursday's UEFA Cup trip to Udinese and next Sunday's home League game against Bolton without a win, then talk of Bilic would surely spread from dressing-room to boardroom.

Spurs are the only Premier League side without a win this season and their dreadful start is partly blamed on the Spanish manager's mediocre English, as well as a summer of turmoil in which they lost star strikers Robbie Keane and Dimitar Berbatov
When asked how he and his team are coping, Ramos resorts frequently in his limited English to the phrase 'it's normal in football'. And the word from some Tottenham players is that they, even more than those who attend his Press conferences, yearn for something more profound. A source revealed: 'He will tell the players "4-3-3 when we have the ball, 4-5-1 when we do not have the ball".
He then stands back, impressed that he has strung a sentence together, while the players are just looking at each other wanting more details about how they should play. Morale has been very low as you'd expect when you're losing so many matches.'
So heavily have chairman Daniel Levy and his board invested in Ramos, both financially and in terms of their own credibility, that they are reluctant to plunge the club into more upheaval by sacking the man they recruited from Sevilla just a year ago. That is why there have been no approaches, formal or otherwise, to find potential replacements, unlike the shoddy saga which ended with Ramos taking over from Jol.
Modric, bought from Dinamo Zagreb for £17million, and his fellow big-money signing, £14m Russia striker Roman Pavlyuchenko, do not speak fluent English and need a clear communicator in the dressing-room. Ramos's schoolboy English has failed to draw the best out of either man. For Modric and Corluka, the international break provided a welcome chance to experience playing in a winning team, even if it was 4-0 over the whipping boys of England's World Cup qualifying group, Andorra.
Corluka said: 'It was good for Luka and myself to be in a winning team. It lifted our confidence although, of course, we know Stoke will be a lot harder than Andorra.'
Corluka is understandably unwilling to lay the blame for the shortcomings of Tottenham's players on their manager. But something beyond the difficulty of integrating a number of new players into a team must explain the poor form of Modric, who has recently been linked with a January move to Juventus.
'We know how Luka plays at Croatia but maybe the players at Spurs don't know yet how he works on the pitch and what he can do,' said Corluka. 'But he is a fighter and will be determined to be successful in England and show what he can do. He won't want to leave, particularly if the team is struggling. Anyway, I moved down from Manchester this summer, so if he leaves, I'll kill him!'
Modric has looked lightweight and ineffective and against uncompromising opponents like Stoke, Ramos will need as many battlehardened veterans as possible.
Today should see a welcome return to league action for club captain Ledley King, who has assumed talismanic status despite - perhaps because of - the way injuries have afflicted him and the way his increasingly rare appearances tend to coincide with better Tottenham performances.
It was nine years ago almost to the day that King made his first start for Tottenham, then managed by George Graham and - as now - hoping to build on a season in which they won the League Cup. During that match at Derby, King took a knock on his jinxed left knee and then had to have an operation which kept him out until the following May. He and the club have limped from crisis to crisis ever since, but as he prepares for what would be only his 200th league appearance, King refuses to feel sorry for himself.
'At the moment all I can do, due to the fact my knee has been a problem, is work as hard as I can off the pitch and make myself available for as many games as I can,' said the central defender, 28, who should be in his prime.
'Of course, when you are out for a long time you think about your career. But you try to stay strong and at the moment I'm not fearful for it. I'm worrying about the position we're in. We've got the players to get us out of this situation and it's down to us to work hard to do it.' As a one-club man, King has witnessed a number of false dawns in his decade at White Hart Lane and he insists that more upheaval is unnecessary. He said: 'It wasn't so long ago that we won the Carling Cup, beating Arsenal and Chelsea along the way, and things were looking good. We're just stuck in a rut.
When you're down there things go against you and it gets harder each week to get out. But the manager's calm about the situation and that's rubbing off on the players.' That may be so, but there is an air of unreality about King and Ramos's apparent serenity. The manager is adamant that it is his desire not to be controversial, rather than any orders from above, which prevents him from repeating previous criticism of the cackhanded way Tottenham managed transfer dealings in the summer.

In fairness, there is little more he needs to say given the lack of goals from their trio of strikers, the currently injured Pavlyuchenko - who many of his teammates believe does not want to be at the club - Darren Bent, a £16.5m flop apparently foisted on Jol by sporting director Damien Comolli, and transfer makeweight Fraizer Campbell.

But when King suggests that having three strikers at the club might be preferable to the situation where there was friction because Dimitar Berbatov, Robbie Keane and Jermain Defoe were competing with Bent for two starting places, common sense and Tottenham - as so often - go their separate ways.
The experiment of trying £15m David Bentley in an unfamiliar position wide on the left has not worked either, and with right winger Aaron Lennon a favoured son at the club, the former Blackburn player may find himself sacrificed in January. King added: 'Obviously we've lost a few players but I think we're a better squad. There's really no reason why we should be where we are in the League. We've talked about it regularly. It's about clicking and it hasn't done that yet.
'Everybody's working hard off the pitch - players, staff - to improve our position. The only thing that's lacking at the moment, basically, is winning games.' If only it were that simple.

edit:link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1078785/Ramos-seven-days-save-job-Spurs-players-talking-Bilic.html
 

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Bilic can be a good manager for spurs he have such a young spirit that young tottenham side will love

he don't treat the players as players he treat them as a friend he goes out with them and party with them etc...

he did really well with Croatia to reach Euro 2008 and only the luck and the high workrate of the Turkish players made him lose the match

Bilic do have some negatives as some media suggest that he prefers players over others and party too late

but all around hes a great young manager who i would love to see managing us after Fergie retire :)

tho i think he will stay with Croatia tell the next world cup
 

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abojodeh said:
Bilic can be a good manager for spurs he have such a young spirit that young tottenham side will love

he don't treat the players as players he treat them as a friend he goes out with them and party with them etc...

he did really well with Croatia to reach Euro 2008 and only the luck and the high workrate of the Turkish players made him lose the match

Bilic do have some negatives as some media suggest that he prefers players over others and party too late

but all around hes a great young manager who i would love to see managing us after Fergie retire :)

tho i think he will stay with Croatia tell the next world cup

And luck and work rate from teams in the wrong end of the final standings could take Bilic and Tottenham to Championship too. ;)
 

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No wonder Berba was so keen to come to OT

While Sours players are starving, Man Utd players get to eat curry and pizza.

the drew against Stoke today, so maybe Juande threw them a bicuit before the match

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Inside Carrington: The Canteen

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={6DDFCB6E-3471-4E45-9385-F04D05F4A70D}&newsid=6617966

After a morning's work on the training pitch, the players refuel in the Carrington canteen…

Based on the first floor in the main building, the canteen seats around 100 people and is used by all club employees based at Carrington, including the manager, coaching staff, first team, Reserves and Academy players, as well as all operational staff.

“Demarcation is never an issue here,†says Sir Alex Ferguson, whose idea it was to have everyone eat in the same room.

“Everybody eats together; people wander about from office to office. It's always been good that way at Carrington.â€

Lunch is served between 12 and 2pm, with snacks and drinks available throughout the day. The man responsible for deciding what culinary delights are on offer is club dietician Trevor Lea.

“Chicken curry is always a winner,†says Trevor. “Some players would eat that every day. Low fat chicken curry, that is, made our way. Fish fingers and fishcakes are popular; we get through a lot of those.

"Pizzas are another favourite with toppings like chicken, spicy beef or tuna and sweetcorn. But again they're not high in fat. We don't smother them in cheese.

“The challenge is to make things tasty without fat. So we experiment a lot with different textures and herbs and other ways of gettingtaste in.â€
 
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