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I hate Cashley Cole as much as the next person but booing him for a genuine mistake is an absolute JOKE!!!! the rest of the fans should have started chanting his name to drown out the muppets who were booing him

if he left the English set up he'd be missed big style ... after years of crying out for left sided players they boo him??? its crazy!!
 

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You earns your money, you takes your chances. I have no problem with Cole being booed. In my opinion, people are making this out to be worse than it was. Stirring it for all its worth. If nobody mentioned it it would have gone away.
 

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Can't agree at all. It is like booing Ronaldo when he plays for us. [I am pretty sure some of us would be dying to boo him on a personal basis but for now we have to restrain ourselves and cheer hard instead.]
 

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listening to the sky sports last night,the amount of peeps calling in to say Cole deserved it cause of his own behaviour.!!!!!!
Well everyone pays their ticket price and can react how they please.
but i still don't get the pleasure of booing a guy,because of club problems,when he's wearing an england shirt.sorry guys i think it's so wrong.if the boo boys want to have a go,fine boo him,but not on the England stage.
 

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I think people are sick of his off the field antic's, the hype that surrounds him and his sheer arrogance. Jeering a playing instead of cheering for them will only curdle their confidence. The players need our support. There is constant talk of turning Wembley into a fortress and the home support should be creating an imposing atmosphere for the opposition, not for our own players. Thus, fans need to get behind the team they support. If the Three Lions are to get anywhere near the 2010 World Cup, they hve got to turn their jeers to cheers.
 

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red_devils4life said:
I think people are sick of his off the field antic's, the hype that surrounds him and his sheer arrogance. Jeering a playing instead of cheering for them will only curdle their confidence. The players need our support. There is constant talk of turning Wembley into a fortress and the home support should be creating an imposing atmosphere for the opposition, not for our own players. Thus, fans need to get behind the team they support. If the Three Lions are to get anywhere near the 2010 World Cup, they hve got to turn their jeers to cheers.

good post ....as for wembley being a fortress,look at whats happened since that game..pundits talk about booing..sky sports talk about booing.we talk about booing..no mention of the game much at all...fortress nooooooo...more like laughing stock.
 

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red lady said:
listening to the sky sports last night,the amount of peeps calling in to say Cole deserved it cause of his own behaviour.!!!!!!
Well everyone pays their ticket price and can react how they please.
but i still don't get the pleasure of booing a guy,because of club problems,when he's wearing an england shirt.sorry guys i think it's so wrong.if the boo boys want to have a go,fine boo him,but not on the England stage.
I would boo him cos he is an ass hole but dont boo him becasue of a genuine mistake, unfair in my eyes! the fans surely want England to do well and booing him wont help the cause!
 

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don't agree with booing you own men while the game is on but really agree they are making too much of it, just wait till next time now....really ashley should grow a pair.
maybe he should also consider his attitude- selling his own team and arsenal fans out, cheating on his other half etc.

you get what you give :)
 

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don't agree with booing you own men while the game is on but really agree they are making too much of it, just wait till next time now....really ashley should grow a pair.
maybe he should also consider his attitude- selling his own team and arsenal fans out, cheating on his other half etc.

you get what you give :)

so what about mr beckham then????......how many times has he cheated or allegedly cheated on the mrs????....
i agree you get what you give,but do the boo boys think that going nuts at a
cup qualifier is the way to go...
i think i don't give a toss about him having a pop at Arsenal,or the fact he cheated on cheryl,what i care about is reading about how england have performed,not about aload of verbal given to the player/players.
and i defy any one to denythat they would go and work for the best wage,and that is exactly what he did.
the only club i'm bothered about is this great utd,all the others can do one.i am also passionate about my country team,so booing him or lampard or any player in that team is an insult to every fan ,whether they watch it on the box,or pay through the nose to watch it at wembley.
keep club football abuse away from the national team.cheer them not jeer them.
 

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red lady said:
listening to the sky sports last night,the amount of peeps calling in to say Cole deserved it cause of his own behaviour.!!!!!!
Well everyone pays their ticket price and can react how they please.
but i still don't get the pleasure of booing a guy,because of club problems,when he's wearing an england shirt.sorry guys i think it's so wrong.if the boo boys want to have a go,fine boo him,but not on the England stage.
Lets sort something out here as I did not hear anything on tv until he gave that ball away for their goal.

Was he being booed throughout, or just after their goal?

Also, if throughout the game, was it because of a small far right element in the crowd?

And, another thought, it could be because of his off field activities, he does not exactly like even talking to fans let alone signing anything, unless there is a cheque in the other hand.

People might not like it, but the fans pay to voice opinions. Players have to play up or shut up.

As for playing for your country, it should be for free, for the honour.
 

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so what about mr beckham then????......how many times has he cheated or allegedly cheated on the mrs????....
i agree you get what you give,but do the boo boys think that going nuts at a
cup qualifier is the way to go...
i think i don't give a toss about him having a pop at Arsenal,or the fact he cheated on cheryl,what i care about is reading about how england have performed,not about aload of verbal given to the player/players.
and i defy any one to denythat they would go and work for the best wage,and that is exactly what he did.
the only club i'm bothered about is this great utd,all the others can do one.i am also passionate about my country team,so booing him or lampard or any player in that team is an insult to every fan ,whether they watch it on the box,or pay through the nose to watch it at wembley.
keep club football abuse away from the national team.cheer them not jeer them.

Cor, I love this girl!!! Red lady dont take no sh**
 

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Lets sort something out here as I did not hear anything on tv until he gave that ball away for their goal.

Was he being booed throughout, or just after their goal?

Also, if throughout the game, was it because of a small far right element in the crowd?

And, another thought, it could be because of his off field activities, he does not exactly like even talking to fans let alone signing anything, unless there is a cheque in the other hand.

People might not like it, but the fans pay to voice opinions. Players have to play up or shut up.

As for playing for your country, it should be for free, for the honour.
Fans pay to watch the game and support their team. The only ones to benefit from so called supporters booing their own players is the opposition.
I agree players should not expect payment to play for their country, by the same token support for your team should be freely given while they are still on the pitch(not just when things are going well). Of course fans have the right to voice their opinions but if those opinions are going to have a negative effect on the team they supposedly support then they should do us all a favour and go watch the game in the pub
 

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Funny read by the Early Doors




Early Doors never thought it would see anybody leap to Ashley Cole's defence.

This is a man who embodies everything odious about the modern game. Who left his boyhood club to chase money; who became the face (or the back) of anti-respect when he turned away from a referee; who played the field despite landing a pop star wife; who published a remarkably self-pitying autobiography that sold only 4000 copies.

Now he is cast as a victim after England fans booed him for his calamitous pass that led to Kazakhstan's goal on Saturday.

Words like 'disgraceful', 'mindless' and 'idiots' are bandied about by players, managers and pundits who reach the po-faced conclusion that anyone who booed Cole is worse than Hitler.

First of all, there is the namby-pamby argument that nobody should be subjected to public ridicule.

Tell that to Ashley's more successful other half Cheryl, currently appearing on a TV programme that has spent the last two months laughing at poor saps who think they can sing but can't. (Lmao :D)

Next comes the claim that the fans are to blame for England's poor home record. Wembley will never become a fortress unless people get behind the team and show unwavering support.

Surely this puts the cart before the horse? Fans wouldn't be booing if the team wasn't so crap.

The crowd had already endured 68 minutes of utter tosh with some patience before Cole's party piece allowed Zhambyl Kukeyev to race through and score the most embarrassing goal England have conceded since Davide 'General' Gualtieri took just eight seconds to beat David Seaman for San Marino.

Rio Ferdinand also deserves blame, incidentally. If he had reacted to Cole's ricket as quickly as Kukeyev did, he would have cut the ball out easily.

Only then did the jeers rain down on Cole. But it is important to understand that he wasn't booed for the mistake as much as what the mistake represented.

For reasons that are painfully obvious, Early Doors doesn't condone booing people for incompetence. Cole was guilty of more than that.

That San Marino goal in 1993 came from another left-back error, by Stuart Pearce. He under-hit a backpass and San Marino scored. But it was merely rubbish, not reprehensible.

When people say Cole didn't make his mistake on purpose, they are wrong. Of course he did it on purpose.

ED doesn't mean he deliberately gave away a goal. But he knew that the pass was showy and risky, and he played it anyway because it was only Kazakhstan.

In nearly a decade of club football, has Cole ever done anything as stupid as that? (On the pitch, that is.) Would he ever, in a million years, think of doing that for Chelsea? Of course not.

Cole personified the entire England team, which was suffused with complacency. Where the 4-1 win in Croatia was full of urgency, drive and ambition, Saturday's match was totally flat.

England were so convinced that goals would come by divine right, they couldn't be bothered to make anything happen.

It was the same at the back. In the first half, rather than making an obvious clearance, Matthew Upson attempted a dangerous backpass to David James. Presumably because booting the ball into Row Z against such lowly opposition would have been embarrassing.

A couple of minutes before the first goal, Kazakhstan nearly scored after Cole was caught miles out of position.

Where was he? Vomiting on the floor of a black cab? Watching X-Factor? Debating some p*ss-take contract offer?

Clearly, England were not trying, and Cole was the worst offender.

Clubs and the FA are happy to view football as a product when it suits them. They take full advantage when people pay huge sums to consume football matches, replica shirts, Peter Crouch calendars and Wes Brown alarm clocks.

Despite this relentless commercialisation, there seems to remain an old-fashioned view that the people who shell out thousands of pounds a year for this tat should not be viewed as discriminating customers.

They are expected to shell out £70 a head for tickets, get a crappy old train to a dank corner of North-West London (no parking at English grounds, obviously), spend another tenner on a programme, then buy overpriced hot dogs and fizzy drinks.

And then they are expected not to complain when they see something as lifeless and complacent as the first 70 minutes against Kazakhstan?

Nobody is forcing people to come to football matches. If they are not entertained, they won't be back. That's business. And if you don't want football to be a business, bring prices back down to 1966 levels, when World Cup tickets set you back all of seven bob.

Otherwise, you must expect people to make their voices heard when they feel short-changed.

And who said unconditional support was the best way to help your team win, anyway? Why is it that fans are expected to sit there (sorry, stand there) and cheer, clap and whoop, whatever fetid tripe their team feeds them?

Managers who take this approach - well, Kevin Keegan - are ridiculed for it. There are times when you need a good old-fashion rollicking to sort things out - and the booing of Cole was the fans' version of the hairdryer treatment.

Players are mollycoddled and protected from reality enough as it is. Do they really need fans to overlook their failings and give them a pat on the back they clearly don't deserve?

England's performance in general - and Cole's in particular - was unacceptable and they needed to be told so.

Things improved markedly after the booing started - do you think it was a coincidence? Well, yes, it probably was.

The late glut of goals probably had less to do with the abuse meted out to Cole than England's realisation that defending set-pieces is no more a part of Kazakh culture than naked wrestling or the running of the Jew.

But it's fun to boo Ashley Cole.


http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/55974/


Gotta Love Early Doors :D
 
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