desmondo said:
RESPONSE TO red force rising
You seem to be suffering from selective memory problems. I never said that fergie should go or that he wasn't an incredible manager. I just thought (and still think) that the whole approach of sitting on a lead and inviting the other team on to us was ineffective. Many agreed with me. If I had started a "fergie out" campaign then fair enough - lambast me .
I don't remember you coming up with one single intelligent argument to counter what I was saying at the time. All you seemed to say was that anyone who criticised fergie's tactics must be a fool because the man is not of this world and is beyond any criticism. Such an approach is unthinking and simplistic. If you have nothing intelligent to offer what is an entirely valid tactical debate (which is probably beyond you) then just keep quiet.
If we ever met with fergie (the two of us) he would no doubt praise me for not worshipping him unconditionally as some demi -god and view you as a snivelling creep who thinks he never could make a mistake. He's no doubt considered many of the same issues that I brought up back then but decided that on balance he was right to play it the way he did. I disagree , but i think Fergie would understand why I might disagree , whereas in you all he would see is a "yes" man.
OK,
First of all, you seem to be the one with the selective memory, because while some were not happy with what was going, i can not remember a single person agreeing with you that Sir Alex Ferguson was instructing the team to sit on a lead and employ basketball style tactics.
You were alone in making that accusation. Later on, Sir Alex bemoaned the same things you were complaining about in a clear indicatation that it was not his instructions.
YOU accused Sir Alex of those things and bashed him at a time when the team as a whole weren't playing well. When the team started playing better and with more conviction, you conveniently disappeared.
On the debating front, it is so ridiculous for you to question my footballing knowledge when I have proven it consistenly and have many, many members commenting on my posts.
The same cannot be said for you.
Sarcasm is so lame...and for you to suggest that discussing tactics is beyond me is so poor. Is that all you can come up with.
Any kid can see what is not working for a team, Desmondo.
BUT YOU INSISTED THE TEAM WAS PLAYING POORLY BECAUSE OF SIR ALEX FERGUSON'S INSTRUCTIONS.
YOU WERE ALONE OF THAT OPINION AND NOW YOU MAKE A THREAD SAYING HE SHOULD GROOM HIS SUCCESSOR.
YOU ARE A JOKE OF A FAN WHOSE OPINION SHIFTS WITH THE WIND.
In a previous thread when I made fun of your comments and asked if you had inside knowledge of the going ons at Old Trafford or had a spy cam in the changing room, you countered that teams mostly play according to instruction in clear indication of your assumption that fergie was instructing them to play that way.
Fergie's lamenting of the team's performances were a clear indication that it was not his instruction.
Can you show me my posts where I ask everyone to be a yes man and where I worship Sir Alex as a demi God?
Also, if I ever met you I would put you down for the lousy fan you are, who slams the manager with assumptions he cannot possibly kow to be true.
If you call me a sniveling creep again I will ban you permanently. Fans like you give other real Manchester United supporters a bad reputation.
Also, why would you want someone who is obsessed with fear and cution to mentor our next manager?:
desmondo said:
Yes , momentum is what it's all about. If you watch the treble season video you can see the momentum building at the crunch end of the season. Where's the momentum here? Wouldn't winning at the bridge been the perfect tonic for Barca? Imagine resting players against wigan in prep for moscow? Fergie seems obsessed with caution and fear. But if we focus on what we fear (ie throwing it away) then that's what you end up getting.....Cantona rarely missed a penalty ..why?...because instead of trying "not to miss" he saw it as a fantastic opportunity to score. Does this team really see these games as a fantastic opportunity or are they afraid ?
In some of your posts you seem to pride yourself on saying it as you see it, but you don't just do that, you say things that you can't possibly know. Like insisiting Sir Alex is instructing the team to hold on to slender leads (which he later bemoaned making your statements an utter joke), that he is asking them to employ basketball-type defence (again Fergie later criticized the team for siting back, clearly showing those were NOT his instructions) and that he is obsessed with fear & caution.
Desmondo, I suggest you get your tiny head out of your arse and start thinking properly about what it means to SUPPORT a team.
You really don't realize what a lousy fan you are.
I see through your rhetoric BS and can only see a 'lalang' fan who slams fergie when the team is not doing well (it's a team sport by the way) and criticizes him with accusations you can't possibly know to be true.
When United are not playing well = It's all Fergie's fault. He's obsessed with caution and fear, he is the one telling the team to hang on to slender lead, because he is afraid and cautious. When United are winning = let Fergie mentor the next manager.
Please end yourself.
