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most united fans were against the takeover..but after the money they have spent..are you happy to have them running manchester united?...or do you feel a football club should be owned by its fans...thoughts?
First of all mate can i point out that the glazers have not spent one penny of their money on anything.mikeybhoy71 said:most united fans were against the takeover..but after the money they have spent..are you happy to have them running manchester united?...or do you feel a football club should be owned by its fans...thoughts?![]()
as a celtic and unted fanatic,i agree with you mate,i have shares in celtic,and i would have a wee share in unted as well,i believe that fans should own clubs,but the glazers deny us fans the right,they have sraddled utd with a massive debt,fans will be swayed by the fact that they have spent £50million,but it dont wash with me..they are not utd fans...never will be either...utd belong to the fans...always have...always will doSALFORD RED said:First of all mate can i point out that the glazers have not spent one penny of their money on anything.
No, not happy to have them running the club.
Why, 3 years ago United debt = 0.
Glazer takeover , United debt = £600m+, with £65m interest every year to pay on that debt.
Football clubs should be owned by the fans but very much doubt it would work for the top flight clubs.
We've gone over a lot of this before mate, though you probably never saw it. http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/man-utd-chat/2378-have-we-over-spent-no.html
Personally, dont really want to get into it all over again.
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Bloody Celtic fansmikeybhoy71 said:as a celtic and unted fanatic,i agree with you mate,i have shares in celtic,and i would have a wee share in unted as well,i believe that fans should own clubs,but the glazers deny us fans the right,they have sraddled utd with a massive debt,fans will be swayed by the fact that they have spent £50million,but it dont wash with me..they are not utd fans...never will be either...utd belong to the fans...always have...always will do![]()
Your being a bit negitive mate. Glazers may have put us in debt, but they've done a good job running the club, the reason for this isthey havn't changed anything.mikeybhoy71 said:as a celtic and unted fanatic,i agree with you mate,i have shares in celtic,and i would have a wee share in unted as well,i believe that fans should own clubs,but the glazers deny us fans the right,they have sraddled utd with a massive debt,fans will be swayed by the fact that they have spent £50million,but it dont wash with me..they are not utd fans...never will be either...utd belong to the fans...always have...always will do![]()
So now your a bloody super hero.Red Devil said:1. Don't look at "their record" - they have no record to speak of.
2. I am a member of MUST, the Manchester United Supporters Trust - we are saving money for the day when WE will either buy them out, or rescue United when they crash.
3. The Glazers are doing nothing in the actual running of the club, Fergie does that. What they do is sit on the board talking about how to raise X amount to repay the starving banks they borrowed from. All the money United "make" emanates from the lads on the field, turnstile money, merchandise and marketting. Without Fergie, the Glazers would lose everything and they know it.
The ONE positive side is that we are no longer a bloody PLC - thats good!!
dovorian said:So now your a bloody super hero.
Your point number two, i particular like the part where you brag about how you think your being the best fan in the world. It one of the good things they do idiot. We didn't want anything to change in terms of the running of the club. They may be thinking of ways to make cash, but thats the idea of paying off the debt.
They plan to win the league, so they're ask SAF if there is any need to add to the squad. If yes, who and how much.
The big bold writting. Well done, you've figures out how a football club is run. If we didn't have SAF, you WOULDN'T find that the Glazer have been giving away tickets for free, or standing outside giving out free merchandise.
What make you so sure, when you "Recue the club"( Not broke, don't fix it), you'll be so great. It a big job and you havn't figured that out because your to busy picking out a suit for that day you've been dreaming of. WAKE up call, It only ever going to be a dream.![]()
Got alot of my chest.![]()
Red Devil said:1. Don't look at "their record" - they have no record to speak of.
2. I am a member of MUST, the Manchester United Supporters Trust - we are saving money for the day when WE will either buy them out, or rescue United when they crash.
3. The Glazers are doing nothing in the actual running of the club, Fergie does that. What they do is sit on the board talking about how to raise X amount to repay the starving banks they borrowed from. All the money United "make" emanates from the lads on the field, turnstile money, merchandise and marketting. Without Fergie, the Glazers would lose everything and they know it.
The ONE positive side is that we are no longer a bloody PLC - thats good!![/QUOTE]
Do actually look at their record and tell me if you can find one club, Business that the Glazers let go bust! GO ON - LOOK AND TELL ME! Go reseach every Company and club they have owned and see if one of them has gone bust DUE to the Glazers !!!
Yet if United aren't owned by the Glazers, that means United are a PLC - O you
aren't happy with that either. Delighted to see you figured how the club is run.
You are a member of the MUST, Jeez can't put an arguement to Red Devil now.
Why he is sure special ....![]()
Well some can never be happy!
Wakey wakey......football has always been a business !!man.utd.singh said:that was a bit rude
I hate the glazor stuff, people like them are turning football into a buissness and not a sport, i think who ever owns man utd should have a passion for football, a love for the club and not just want to make some cash.
i agree and i thank them for what theyve done with Nani, Anderson and Hargreaves, but thats thanks to SAF and i think if we dont win the prem this season Glazer will flip at SAF![]()
No Car the two options do NOT make me a happy man.carlyluvsunited said:The two options available to the Glazers must make you happy man Sal...
They have to force the interest rates down - which is impossible !!
Which mean they will HAVE to sell up !!!
But I don't think that will make people happy either.
So what now ?
What would make YOU happy ?
I only ask from interest because you seem to know more about all this than everyone else here![]()
I would say the fact you - go to other places, read upSALFORD RED said:No Car the two options do NOT make me a happy man.
What would ? MUFC owned by the fans. ( but thats very unliely to be anything
other than a dream ).
And i don't know more about this than anyone else, i just go to other places, read
up on MY clubs dealings, listen/read real facts and figures and post relative
information in threads for people to read for themselfs.
If you are happy with nearly a 50% rise over three years in the price of season
tickets, along with every other increase then thats probably because YOU dont
have to pay it as you dont have a season ticket or attend more than a couple of
games a season.