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See Fergie had a right go at the FC United mob. The whole stuff about prices at games and he said that the minister in the government if he didn't like the prices could go and watch the FC United mob. Anyway I had a look around and they had around 1000 at an away match in north england on Saturday which is pretty good. But I guess it makes tickets easier to get hold of at Old T with those defections. I found a good free video site as well show FC games. www.npltv.tv

For those of us expats wanting to know how about our local teams, not just fc, its a pretty good site!
 
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Two people talking rubbish on a thread doesn't make for a good forum, so i'll try to put a bit of sense into it to help out.

Been involved in non-league for many years. There is hundreds of great little clubs and supporters up and down the country in places most people have never even heard of.
www.npltv.tv show different games each week not just FCUM.
FCUM have their own live webcast and radio every game www.fcumtv./ all run by volunteers.

If anyone want links to any club/website/info site or anything just send me a PM and i will give it you.

Johnthe red....http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/ gives you your answers on everything. Manchester United at home the same time as FCUM hardly makes any difference at all to FCUMs gates. If you or anyone again needs links etc, just ask.

andycole9......Complete rubbish. FCUM have NEVER taken 4,500 fans to ANY away game. Average gate at home ? About 2,200 - 2,500. Average away following ? About 1,000 - 1,500.
I dont know which game you are talking about but i suspect you mean when they played Curzon in the cup final at the end of last season.
In which case the final tickets were on open sale to anyone, FCUM fans, Curzon fans, and anyone else intested, so FCUM fans never LEFT 500 tickets for Curzon fans. Fact, the crowd for that game ( off the top of my head ) was about 4,250, so your math does not add up correctly.

Yes i did go, yes i have been to see FCUM dozens of times since the were formed by United supporters, some for 20, 30, 40, 50, years, disillusioned in what Manchester United had become and priced out of attending. With day tripping glory hunting prawn sandwich eating tourists, paying over the top inflated prices for tickets, filling OT.

Now for less than £10 dads and sons* can go to a game, go wherever they want in the ground, stand ( yes stand ) and sing ( yes sing ) for 90+ minutes with thier mates and have a great day out.

* or any other combination.

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But thats turning your back on the club isnt it Sal ?

I know that you still support United and all, am talking about the majority of FCUM followers, theyve turned their backs on their club.

For me there are two types of Fc United fans. Some that still love United and only support Manchester United but they go for the banter with their mates, the atmosphere in the ground and the fact that its affordable. These 3 factors have been taken away at Old Trafford. I have no problem with that.

Then theres the other type which I really despise. The anti-Glazier section (arent we all anti glazer?) that think of FC United as an extention to Manchester United. I mean how dare they sing songs about the busby babes et all ? I dont care wether theyve supported the club for 5 years or 50, theyve turned their back on the club. They severed all connections with United when they formed their own club. Let them sing about their own "history". If you turn your back on United, thats it, you cant choose what bit you like and the one you dont like.

We're United supporters , manchester united supporters, for better or worse. I guess The takeover was for worse but as United supports we stick with our club through the bad times. United had the highest gate attendance in england whilst playing in the second division, thats what our supporters are all about. Loyalty. And the FC United supporters have turned their back on their club and I despise them more than I despise the dippers fans.
 
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Sorry to hear you feel that way mate but i hear where you are coming from and what you say and understand how you mean things.
Not got time to get into a long debate ( maybe later ), but some of your points are totally wrong.
You'll find just about every FCUM fan has NOT turned their backs on supporting MUFC, they still love United. I have not met one yet who has stopped supporting United.
They just wont go to games or buy the merchandise to pay the gimps debt.
They watch all the games on tv, like millions of other United fans world-wide, If that makes them non United supporters then it also makes millions non supporters.


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I have no problem with going to their games, Ive been to a couple two years ago, just for banter and to see some mates. But for me FCUM fans are not United fans. Forming a club of their own mate means turning their back on United. When they did that theyre no longer United fans.
 
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I have no problem with going to their games, Ive been to a couple two years ago, just for banter and to see some mates. But for me FCUM fans are not United fans. Forming a club of their own mate means turning their back on United. When they did that theyre no longer United fans.
Exactly how are they not United fans ? They are no different to the millions world-wide who never go to a game, even in Manchester.
And thinking your way, if myself and a few other people no longer went to games got together and formed our own club that would make us no longer United supporters ??
Hows that work if in , say Ireland, a group of United supporters decide to form a small club, does the same logic still apply?
There many on this forum alone who dont go to games, and maybe some who have formed clubs in their countries, are they not United supporters now ?

I think it boils down to each persons view of what a supporter is.

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RED MAN WALKING said:
without the glazers we would not have the team we got today.....
Cant see how you work that out mate.
Do you think they put their hands in their own pockets to pay for them ? did they go out scouting and find the players ?
Wonder how we got all the players we did before 2005 ?

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SALFORD RED said:
Exactly how are they not United fans ? They are no different to the millions world-wide who never go to a game, even in Manchester.
And thinking your way, if myself and a few other people no longer went to games got together and formed our own club that would make us no longer United supporters ??
Hows that work if in , say Ireland, a group of United supporters decide to form a small club, does the same logic still apply?
There many on this forum alone who dont go to games, and maybe some who have formed clubs in their countries, are they not United supporters now ?

I think it boils down to each persons view of what a supporter is.

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No No you got me wrong, Im not saying they arent fans becaus they dont contribute to the club or attend games. But when you form a club, not any club like you say in ireland or in your own backyard, but a club that you claim is an extention to Manchester United relating our legends and history to them, theyre talking out of their rears. They have, in more than one way, turned their back on our club.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this touchy subject then.

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they have backed fergie 100%, more than any plc did if u seen the fergie interviews he says so .......
Ferguson says that its easier to work with an owner than a plc, he didnt say that he backed him more. Glazier is taking money out not putting money in. The money we spent this season , we EARNED it. its not Glaziers money its the clubs.
 

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I am unsure what the problem is with FC United. They are a team like anybody else, the fact that they are followed by United and ex-United fans is completely immaterial. They are doing extremely well and there is talk that they may even make the football league in the not too distant future. I hope they do. We will not be the first club in history to have two teams in the League either; as they teams are completely separate entities.

I do not see them as either rivals nor traitors as many United fans do. I wish them all the best and hope to live to see the day when they play each other.

Come On United; FC and Manchester!!
 

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SALFORD RED said:
Two people talking rubbish on a thread doesn't make for a good forum, so i'll try to put a bit of sense into it to help out.

Been involved in non-league for many years. There is hundreds of great little clubs and supporters up and down the country in places most people have never even heard of.
www.npltv.tv show different games each week not just FCUM.
FCUM have their own live webcast and radio every game www.fcumtv./ all run by volunteers.

If anyone want links to any club/website/info site or anything just send me a PM and i will give it you.

Johnthe red....http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/ gives you your answers on everything. Manchester United at home the same time as FCUM hardly makes any difference at all to FCUMs gates. If you or anyone again needs links etc, just ask.

andycole9......Complete rubbish. FCUM have NEVER taken 4,500 fans to ANY away game. Average gate at home ? About 2,200 - 2,500. Average away following ? About 1,000 - 1,500.
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 dont know which game you are talking about but i suspect you mean when they played Curzon in the cup final at the end of last season.
In which case the final tickets were on open sale to anyone, FCUM fans, Curzon fans, and anyone else intested, so FCUM fans never LEFT 500 tickets for Curzon fans. Fact, the crowd for that game ( off the top of my head ) was about 4,250, so your math does not add up correctly
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Yes i did go, yes i have been to see FCUM dozens of times since the were formed by United supporters, some for 20, 30, 40, 50, years, disillusioned in what Manchester United had become and priced out of attending. With day tripping glory hunting prawn sandwich eating tourists, paying over the top inflated prices for tickets, filling OT.

Now for less than £10 dads and sons* can go to a game, go wherever they want in the ground, stand ( yes stand ) and sing ( yes sing ) for 90+ minutes with thier mates and have a great day out.

* or any other combination.

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i didn't know for a fact SAL i knew curzon were left with 500 tickets and FC utd took the rest with the ground holding 5.ooo i thought they had brought 4.500 as it was a sell out (my son plays for the youth team there and just going of what i was told by officials) so keep your knickers on
 
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andycole9 said:
i didn't know for a fact SAL i knew curzon were left with 500 tickets and FC utd took the rest with the ground holding 5.ooo i thought they had brought 4.500 as it was a sell out (my son plays for the youth team there and just going of what i was told by officials) so keep your knickers on
Knickers kept on mate. :D FCUM didn't take the rest, they were on open sale to anyone, total tickets on sale was 4,500, was not a sell out. Just putting a few things straight.

This comes from a member/owner of the club. .......Me !!! :D

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SALFORD RED said:
Knickers kept on mate. :D FCUM didn't take the rest, they were on open sale to anyone, total tickets on sale was 4,500, was not a sell out. Just putting a few things straight.

This comes from a member/owner of the club. .......Me !!! :D

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good, good, i was just letting people know what fantastic support FCUM had i wasn;t slagging them off and never had i know loads of people who've been to FCUM matches
 
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