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Oh my god, a mention in the press that a player should have been sent off against United and that United were wronged by a referee?!

I suppose there's a first for everything.
 

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Without the ref there is no game . We need to be careful hounding refs for what is an impossible task . They have cameras all over the place these days ---add the ability to freeze the action --chuck in the ability to widen the field of view and would you fancy your chances ??

If we can use the tech to slaughter them, surely we must let them use it too .

The fifa arguement about it not being available at all levels of the game is pony because how many park games have a fourth official ???

Most have members of the sides running the line ffs .
 

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i thought the RVP decision was correct... arsenal were mathematically through at the time, and they decided to time waste
 

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Another controversy?

Didn't watch the game but was it clear as daylight for the second yellow? Or was it too harsh as some 'follow-through's are inevitable?

Wenger - Red card cost us | Sky Sports | Football | Champions League | News

Van Persie - red card a joke | Sky Sports | Football | Champions League | News

Both cards were pretty harsh IMO. For the Van Persie sending off, I believe he should of not even given the ref an excuse but it was still an extremely harsh red card. You see players carry on and take a shot all the time after the whistle has been blown but the player is too busy concentrating on the goal and it's hard to hear a whistle go to rule them offside.
 

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Football365 | All The News | Football News | UEFA WAIT ON NOU CAMP REF'S REPORT

UEFA will await referee Massimo Busacca's report before deciding whether Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger faces any disciplinary reaction.

Wenger was unhappy with the Swiss official following Arsenal's 3-1 defeat by Barcelona in the second leg of their Champions League last-16 tie on Tuesday evening.

Busacca sent off Robin van Persie for a second yellow card for shooting at goal just one second after he had blown the whistle for offside - a decision the Arsenal striker described as a 'joke'.

At the final whistle, Wenger confronted Busacca and the conversation reportedly continued down the tunnel.

The Gunners boss claimed in his post-match press conference that UEFA officials were 'shocked' by Busacca's decision to dismiss Van Persie, but European football's governing body will wait before pursuing any case against Wenger.

A UEFA spokesman said: "We are waiting for the UEFA match delegate's report and the referee's report.

"If anything is mentioned then the control and disciplinary department will decide whether to open a disciplinary case or not."

UEFA also confirmed that there is no avenue for Van Persie to appeal his one-match suspension for his red card.

The spokesman commented: "Under Article 44.4 of UEFA's disciplinary regulations, appeals are only allowed against cautions on the grounds of mistaken identity."

UEFA always refuses to comment on the individual performances of referees but did confirm that Busacca's handling of the match will be evaluated.

"Referees are always evaluated," added the spokesman. "There is a referee observer who evaluates their performance.

"These are taken into account internally in terms of appointments but we never make that public."
 

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i thought the RVP decision was correct... arsenal were mathematically through at the time, and they decided to time waste
how the **** did he time waste? 1 second after the ref blew his whistle (which he clearly didn't hear) he took a shot, that's not time wasting.
 

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how the **** did he time waste? 1 second after the ref blew his whistle (which he clearly didn't hear) he took a shot, that's not time wasting.
i thought he took his time after the whistle...he must have heard it, it didn't look anything controversial to me and rvp was nervous that night and he's kow as the nervous guy
 

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Graham Poll: Javier Hernandez is not a cheat | Mail Online

Javier Hernandez did not dive at St James’ Park in Tuesday night’s goalless draw and should not have been cautioned for simulation, not according to FIFA anyway.

However, Manchester United winger Nani did and he should have been shown the yellow card, as should Newcastle United’s Jonas Gutierrez, but neither were.


I can only state this because, of course, I have the advantage over Lee Probert, Tuesday night’s referee, of having seen slow-motion replays.

After viewing replays you can argue that both teams could also have been awarded a penalty kick for trips on Peter Lovenkrands and Hernandez.

The problem for Probert was that players were falling over far too easily thus making it virtually impossible, in marginal cases, to tell with any degree of certainty whether or not a foul has been committed.

When a player wipes another one out it is easy to award a free-kick. It is also not so contentious when awarding a free-kick around the centre of the field of play.

All too often commentators will say that if an offence that takes place in the penalty area had taken place on the halfway line then a free-kick would have been given.

Damn right it would, because there would not be such a big impact on the game and so a lesser degree of certainty is required.

Players must realise this when they dive or go over too easily. They are affecting the chances of their own team in getting a penalty later in the game and if Manchester United or Newcastle are looking for a scapegoat for not getting their penalties they should point the finger at their own players, who made Probert’s life almost impossible.

What we have seen in the last four days of Barclays Premier League action is a consistent approach from referees within their own matches.

Andre Marriner clearly had a lower tariff for his penalty kicks on Sunday at the Emirates and, having given both, can be supported.

Probert, in denying both very tight calls, can also be supported.

The only issue for Probert, which of course Sir Alex Ferguson was quick to highlight, was the incorrect caution of Hernandez, nicknamed ‘Little Pea’.

FIFA tell their referees that if there is any contact between the players then you should not caution for simulation. That is the safe option, of course, but if referees are to win the war on the cheats then a few innocent parties will have to be cautioned in a clampdown.

The biggest issue for a referee when faced with deciding whether a player has dived is that you are basically calling the player a cheat.

Considering that the worst thing a player can do to a referee is to call him a cheat, then you must feel 100 per cent certain if you are calling a player one.

It is far easier to just wave appeals away and keep the game flowing but in doing so you do nothing to deter those who are willing to cheat in order to win.

That was Probert’s biggest problem on Tyneside.
 

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Finally, somebody who agrees. Aside from Poll, am I the only one who thought that Bosingwa should have been sent off for his foul on Nani? For me, that was a goalscoring opportunity.

Dowd used us being 3-1 up as an excuse to not make any big decisions. I bet he thought they'd go under the radar.
Who are you?! Why are you misappropriating somebody else's account? Can you please elucidate?

 
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