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It's simple enough. Strip the sides of their manager's philosophies and tactics. How many of Arsenal's recognised top guns would get into the reigning champion's top selection and vice versa?

Manuel Almunia:VDS-Great goalkeeper. Almunia-Good goalkeeper. That's the main difference between the both of the custodians. In terms of experience,VDS trumps easily. In terms of goalkeeping ability,VDS triumphs too. So as expected,VDS will retain his spot as the undisputed No.1

Bacary Sagna:Useful, versatile and capable at fullback and as a wing back. Great at overlapping runs,can cross the ball very well and looks to have ‘a good engine'. Can he take the spot from our captain Gazza? Possibly........

Kolo Toure: A lovely player and a real find by Wenger in his last five years at Arsenal. Hardly ever seems to have a bad game and is a consistent, unassuming rock at the heart of the Gunners defence. Incredibly, the Ivorian is still only 25. But he's up against Rio Ferdinand. Does anyone suppose Toure's better? No, I think not.

William Gallas:Though there are questions about Gallas concerning his relative lack of height for a centre back, few can doubt his excellence as a defender. Gallas is so good that when he left Chelsea, many predicted Chelsea wouldn't win the league. They didn't. Another player who can offer consistency and versatility. If he was selected at right back, Gallas would get in ahead of Gary Neville. But at centre back, against Vidic, a goal scoring centre back, it's hard to put a cigarette paper between them. Gallas might get the vote due to his experience & vital goals.

Gael Clichy: An improving player who is now justifying Wenger's decision to sell ‘Cashley Cole.' Has the electrifying pace and clever wits to give Arsenal a good outlet on the left flank but lacks the big-match temperament to take Evra's shirt for now.

Alexander Hleb: A typical Wenger player – comfortable on the ball, clever when in retaining ball-possession, irregular scorer. Even Wenger cant stop moaning about the player's tendency to over-do it on the field and always look for another pass when he should shoot. Is he a better option than Giggs or Nani. Most possibly.

Cesc Fabregas: The jewel in the Wenger crown. The young Spaniard hotshot looks set to be the great midfield powerhouse of his generation now that he's located the opposition's goal. A splendid player who will only get better. Wenger calls him the new ‘Paul Scholes.' As the original is ageing,the carbon-copy might juz' edge it.

Mathieu Flamini: The Frenchman has been one of the revelations in Emirates Stadium tis season. Flamini is an excellent foil to Fabregas, doing much of the heavy lifting in the Arsenal midfield. He can score too as he demonstrated to full effect this season. But good enough for United at the expense of Hargreaves? No.

Tomas Rosicky: Another twinkle-toed, bright midfielder who doesn't score enough except when the time comes to find a top quality WAG. Sees plenty of the ball at Arsenal and on his day, Rosicky can be mesmerising. But is he a devastating player often enough? Is he the player to change the course of a game? He'd need these qualities and more to get in the United team ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo. No contest at all!

Robin Van Persie. An excellent player, who could develop into a real gem playing just behind the front man. Has terrific pace,keen awareness, packs an excellent shot and is the scorer of some memorable goals. Still only 24, he seems to have been around a long while already. Van Persie would be on every manager's dream shopping list.Would probably edge Carlos Tevez out VERY narrowly.

Emmanuel Adebayor:Is tall and gangly but Rio Ferdinand rated the Togolese roof cleaner as his most difficult opponent last year. Adebayor is the deceptively talented ‘new' type of forward, as happy receiving the ball with his back to goal as he is whipping over a telling cross after a run down the channels. Not much of a competition here. Rooney by a country mile.......


So at a pinch, Fergie might just take Gallas, Fabregas, Hleb, Sagna, Van Persie.
Going the other way, VDS, Rio, Ronaldo, Rooney & Hargo at a minimum. Expect the battle between Clichy & Evra to go write down the wire man!

So the best United-Gooners' Starting-XI would probably be:

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Bacary Sagna-------Rio Ferdinand------William Gallas-------Patrice Evra

Alexander Hleb----Cesc Fabregas----Owen Hargreaves-----C.Ronaldo

---------------------Wayne Rooney---------RVP---------------------------------

So,what u guys think'?
 
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Expect the battle between Clichy & Evra to go write down the wire man! What battle? Evra wins by a long way!!

So the best United-Gooners' Starting-XI would probably be:

----------------------------------------VDS-----------------------------------------

Bacary Sagna-------Rio Ferdinand------William Gallas-------Patrice Evra

Alexander Hleb----Cesc Fabregas----Owen Hargreaves-----C.Ronaldo

---------------------Wayne Rooney---------RVP---------------------------------

So,what u guys think'?
I wouldn't take Gallas over Vidic at the moment. SAF says Vidic is "the best defender in the League!" Also Giggs beats Hleb, Anderson beats Fabregas based on future potential and did you forget about the magician that is Paul Scholes?
 

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There is no need to say that it is a pointless thread. I think it is a very good analytical one. If you re-phrase the title, I think it is just saying "who is better".

VDS beats Almunia and Lehmann easily, thats a no-brainer for me.

Sagna seems like a decent player for me, but I don't think I would replace Gary Neville to make way for him to be honest. Neville is United through and through, and for me he is one of the best right-backs in the game, the fact that, the right back position is the only position on the field that Sir Alex hasn't tinkered with (since replacing Parker for Gaz) means that it would take someone exceptional to take Nevilles shirt.

I wouldn't replace Rio or Vidic, at the moment it is the best defensive partnership, maybe even in Europe.

Clichy or Gallas vs Evra hmmmmm, well there is nothing that Clichy can do that Evra can't, he is after all the best left-back in the league so far. I'd take Gallas and put him on the bench, that way he can cover for Rio or Vidic but at the same time cover for our very thin left-back position.

Hleb would be a good addition but I wouldn't replace anyone for him, he is like a cross between Park Ji-Sung and Paul Scholes, in the sense that he loves to run, is a good off the ball player, but is knocked off the ball easily and like Scholes in the sense that he is a very incisive and sharp passer of the ball.

Fabregas vs Scholes is probably the toughest one. For me Paul Scholes is the best midfielder in the league, Fabregas, Gerrard, Essien, Lampard all very talented players but Scholes is the best in my opinion. Paul Scholes's touch of the ball is always so accurate and so sublime which is something you can't say for Gerrard Essien or Lampard, and he is a lot more nippier than Fabregas and a lot more experienced. However Fabregas's age is a factor you have to consider. Scholes is like 33 whereas Fabregas is barely 20, so its one that could go either way really. But we also have Anderson who is about Fabregas's age already being groomed to be Scholes's replacement so I don't really see the need for Fabregas. If we didn't have Anderson then I might have considered it.

Honestly I think I wouldn't mind replacing Adebayor with either Tevez or Saha. Adebayor has been brilliant for me, he is tall, excellent header of the ball, good finisher, and for a really tall person he has some really good pace. Don't get me wrong I love Tevez and Saha but I think if we had Adebayor we would score a lot more goals.

So thats it really I'd take Adebayor for Saha or Tevez, and Gallas as an addition.
 

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nobody....our players...all our players..are far more better that the gunners ...you'll see when they'll come to Old Trafford....we'll rip them appart
 

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red_devils4life said:
So at a pinch, Fergie might just take Gallas, Fabregas, Hleb, Sagna, Van Persie.
Going the other way, VDS, Rio, Ronaldo, Rooney & Hargo at a minimum. Expect the battle between Clichy & Evra to go write down the wire man!

So the best United-Gooners' Starting-XI would probably be:

----------------------------------------VDS-----------------------------------------

Bacary Sagna-------Rio Ferdinand------William Gallas-------Patrice Evra

Alexander Hleb----Cesc Fabregas----Owen Hargreaves-----C.Ronaldo

---------------------Wayne Rooney---------RVP---------------------------------

So,what u guys think'?

Nice idea red devils and don't mind some of the, all I can think of is lazy comments.....


I think Wenger has not just a team but a squad of players who want to pass the ball and play, it is no where near perfected yet as we have seen them adopt the long ball tactic at times this season when under pressure.

But if they keep playing like this who knows how much they will win.

However we can also play football and deserve just as much credit as Wengers 'kids' deserve.


VDS I think just about edges it over Almunia judging on this season as they have both had a few shaky moments.
But VDS has the experience.

I admire Gallas and Toure as a partnership and as individual players they are fantastic but I think the Vidic-Rio partnership is stronger....

Evra edges it over Clichy aswell although Clichy has to be one of the most improved players already this season. He will be world class next season if he keeps progressing at this rate.

Sagna is a good player but I'll reserve my full judgement on him until I see another few of Les Arses matches.


In midfield I think Scholes still edges it over Fabregas but of course he would be a great addition to the squad, although he would have to lose the shenanigans....


I would put Saha or Tevez in instead of RVP because I think they are better goal scorers and better players, although in a year or so RVP will be evn better.

I would probably play Hleb aswell, a fantastic player and technically magnificent.
 

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me and my friends did this at school and at the end of it,it was pointless to compare arsenal players to United players.at the end of the day.United players always take the prize
 

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Andreas_svan said:
Pointless thread, just say i would rather choose UTDs squad over Arsenals anytime anyday.
As I hve expected,some ppl would juz' come & flame me for thread. In my head,I clearly noe that Arsenal & United's players will nvr play 2gether as a team. And that's the main reason why I hve started tis thread! B'coz,I really want to noe who would Fergie choose from Arsenal's first team, & Wenger vice-versa! I intend to hear from all ur sincere opinions & there's some nuts who come here to tell me that's a 'pointless thread'! It's tis wat u guys do juz' to increase ur posts? Up until now,only '1luv1Utd' & K4t has been posting smart comments. I'm still waitin' for more of these.........& anyway,ppl who juz' come here to post 'pointless thread' can just **** OFF,and by the word **** OFF, I really meant **** OFF! ;)

With regards & appreciation,
Rd4l :)
 

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Excellent posts 1Luv1United and Bert.........
My thoughts exactly....basically the whole United team with 2/3 Arse players...
Well written lads :)
 

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i thought this was a good post lad dont mind those wanks!!

i think id have to fit rosicky in there somewhere tho, hes quality!

me and my arsenal fan friend did this a few years ago and we nearly fell out over giggs or pires!!!!!!!!!!
 
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