Manchester United Talk banner
21 - 40 of 42 Posts

·
Banned
Joined
·
16,006 Posts
VaVaVoom said:
Look at it this way, which team would miss the player's mentioned more!! It's a simple as that.
Good to say your don't back up your needless abuse. Complete immaturity because you ain't getting your own way. Grow up.

They would be both huge losses to their clubs. You can't judge who would be a bigger lose because both clubs are in different positions. Milan are aging and Kaka is one of the few youngsters. Liverpool have a relativley younger side, so if you ask me they are both quite even. It would be impossible to judge.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
16,006 Posts
VaVaVoom said:
I've no time for that shit tho Jazz, looked like a sneaky dig at me.
And i can't stand people who think they know it all.
Boo-hoo.

It wasn't a sneaky dig at all. I was just telling the guy what i thought about him. We had a great discussion yesterday about the term world class. You're immaturity couldn't see that though. The post had nothing to do with you. When you're ball have dropped you might realise that discussion take place oustdie of you opinion.

Name one point where I have said I know it all. I wanted to discuss it with you. Frankly, you seem incapable of doing so. You should hit the offical forums, plenty of morons on there, you word will probably be gospel if all you're looking for is someone to agree with you.

yet, i'm the one who thinks he knows it all. Gerard is twice the player of Kaka.:rolleyes:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,462 Posts
peterswellman said:
Boo-hoo.

It wasn't a sneaky dig at all. I was just telling the guy what i thought about him. We had a great discussion yesterday about the term world class. You're immaturity couldn't see that though. The post had nothing to do with you. When you're ball have dropped you might realise that discussion take place oustdie of you opinion.

Name one point where I have said I know it all. I wanted to discuss it with you. Frankly, you seem incapable of doing so. You should hit the offical forums, plenty of morons on there, you word will probably be gospel if all you're looking for is someone to agree with you.

yet, i'm the one who thinks he knows it all. Gerard is twice the player of Kaka.:rolleyes:
Gerrard is better than him on current form, just look at other members post and you'll see;)

I never liked your attitude from the moment you joined, your a know all because you can't see other peoples views, the way you see things is that your always right. And i hate people like that, everyone knows people like that and knowbody likes them lol.

And you'd know about these other forums why:confused: , cause your the moran on them. :eek:
 

·
I'm so gorgeous they want to arrest me
Joined
·
8,772 Posts
---------------------Buffon------------------------

Dani Alves------Vida---Rio---------------Evra

Messi----------Xavi-----Gerrard------Ronaldo

-----------------Torres-----Eto'o-----------------
 

·
Thank you Sir Alex
Joined
·
5,528 Posts
peterswellman said:
You would have Gerrard in ahead of Kaka? That's just insane. Kaka is one of those who will always be world class, his moments of sheer brillance are insane. What has Gerrard done over Kaka to make you warrant putting him in your team? They are very similiar, Kaka singlehandedly drags Milan through games and is waaaaay more creative.

Kaka is way over rated imo. I don't think Kaka deserves a place in the current world team setup. He had one good season with Milan in which they won the CL. Even in that season, although he was brilliant in the CL (especially against us) his league form wasn't that breathtaking. Also it has to be noted that his international form isn't stellar either (most notable in Brazil's performance in the last world cup). For me,

Ronaldo 07-08> Messi 08-09> Kaka 06-07

Maybe it's a bit unfair to put Messi in the equation above coz the season isn't over and Barca is yet to win a trophy this season. In terms of Importance to their respective clubs, I think Gerrard is more important to Liverpool that Kaka is to Milan. Gerrard has saved the scousers on countless occasions and is the heartbeat of that club.

Although Kaka was an important part in CL winning Milan team, even if you take Kaka out, Milan still had other world class midfielders like Gattuso, Pirlo and Seedorf in their team who were just as important as Kaka.

His form this season and on the previous season hardly suggests this guy deserves a place in the current world team.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
25,467 Posts
^^back on topic at last thank God.

vava-the first post he quoted was one of MY posts, and nothing to do with you.
He wasnt having a pop in that post. Your 'row' has gone far enough off topic
so Ill be deleting all the off topic posts now......
you both have different views, fair enough, just leave the insults. thanks.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
16,006 Posts
red devil jeff said:
Kaka is way over rated imo. I don't think Kaka deserves a place in the current world team setup. He had one good season with Milan in which they won the CL. Even in that season, although he was brilliant in the CL (especially against us) his league form wasn't that breathtaking. Also it has to be noted that his international form isn't stellar either (most notable in Brazil's performance in the last world cup). For me,

Ronaldo 07-08> Messi 08-09> Kaka 06-07

Maybe it's a bit unfair to put Messi in the equation above coz the season isn't over and Barca is yet to win a trophy this season. In terms of Importance to their respective clubs, I think Gerrard is more important to Liverpool that Kaka is to Milan. Gerrard has saved the scousers on countless occasions and is the heartbeat of that club.

Although Kaka was an important part in CL winning Milan team, even if you take Kaka out, Milan still had other world class midfielders like Gattuso, Pirlo and Seedorf in their team who were just as important as Kaka.

His form this season and on the previous season hardly suggests this guy deserves a place in the current world team.
At last an opinion that we can discuss.

See to me mate, Kaka has permenant class. He has the wow factor that can change a game in a secodn with a breathtaking through ball or simply taking taking the ball and running at the defence.

I'll agree with the Ronaldo, Messi and Kaka equation 100%.

Of course they still did. But atm, Milan's team is so old that Kaka is key too it. Liverpool now have a much younger midfield and there are better players now atm that will step into Gerrards shoes than will step into Kaka's.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,462 Posts
peterswellman said:
At last an opinion that we can discuss.

See to me mate, Kaka has permenant class. He has the wow factor that can change a game in a secodn with a breathtaking through ball or simply taking taking the ball and running at the defence.

I'll agree with the Ronaldo, Messi and Kaka equation 100%.

Of course they still did. But atm, Milan's team is so old that Kaka is key too it. Liverpool now have a much younger midfield and there are better players now atm that will step into Gerrards shoes than will step into Kaka's.
Haven't you said all this before:eek:

Look Gerrard and Kaka are both very different players, Kaka has that wow factor but Gerrard has different qualities.
And you can have your view on Kaka been more important to Milan than Gerrard to Liverpool.... but thats insane to think that. But it's your view:D

Gerrard is Liverpool= fact
Is Kaka Milan?
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
16,006 Posts
VaVaVoom said:
Haven't you said all this before:eek:

Look Gerrard and Kaka are both very different players, Kaka has that wow factor but Gerrard has different qualities.
And you can have your view on Kaka been more important to Milan than Gerrard to Liverpool.... but thats insane to think that. But it's your view:D

Gerrard is Liverpool= fact
Is Kaka Milan?
Yet, you couldn't muster up a reply. Unlucky.

Question did you see the protests when Kaka was going to be sold to City? Kaka is the golden boy of Miland loves teh clubs. Ask any Milan support does Kaka have the same importance to miland as gerrard has to Liverpool and they'll tell you exactly what i've been saying all along. Just because he wasn't born in Milan doesn't meas he can't love the club.
 

·
Thank you Sir Alex
Joined
·
5,528 Posts
peterswellman said:
At last an opinion that we can discuss.

See to me mate, Kaka has permenant class. He has the wow factor that can change a game in a secodn with a breathtaking through ball or simply taking taking the ball and running at the defence.

I'll agree with the Ronaldo, Messi and Kaka equation 100%.

Of course they still did. But atm, Milan's team is so old that Kaka is key too it. Liverpool now have a much younger midfield and there are better players now atm that will step into Gerrards shoes than will step into Kaka's.
There's no doubt about Kaka's importance in the Milan team. And yes he has the ability to change the game. I would have been inclined to add him to my world XI had he carried the old aged Milan team to a better league position in the current and the previous season. But that was not the case. The only striking contribution made by Kaka was his CL performance in the 06-07 season and he ended up as the CL top scorer. Other than that, I don't find his league contribution or his International performance to be stellar. Also, it has to noted that in the year Milan and Kaka won the CL, Milan had a negative points start in the league. So they basically gave up the scudetto concentrated only on the CL.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
11 Posts
-------------------------------------------Buffon--------------------------------------------

Alves--------------------Vidic----------------------------Neasta-------------------Evra

--------------------------------------------Xavi-----------------------------------------------

Messi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ronaldo

--------------------------------------------Kaka-----------------------------------------------


--------------------------Villa---------------------------Eto------------------------------------
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
16,006 Posts
red devil jeff said:
There's no doubt about Kaka's importance in the Milan team. And yes he has the ability to change the game. I would have been inclined to add him to my world XI had he carried the old aged Milan team to a better league position in the current and the previous season. But that was not the case. The only striking contribution made by Kaka was his CL performance in the 06-07 season and he ended up as the CL top scorer. Other than that, I don't find his league contribution or his International performance to be stellar. Also, it has to noted that in the year Milan and Kaka won the CL, Milan had a negative points start in the league. So they basically gave up the scudetto concentrated only on the CL.
That maybe the thing, in Italy the thing they all want is the CL. Considering Milan had such a poor starting they were never going to bother really pushing for the league. Still though, it doesn't really excuse Kaka.

I'm a huge fan, he is simply brillant in my eyes.
 

·
MUT all-time great
Joined
·
21,962 Posts
----------------Buffon
Ramos---Vidic--Puyol---Evra
Ronaldo---Xavi---Gerrard----Messi
--------------Eto'o---Villa
 

·
Pz
Joined
·
2,062 Posts
kaka is world class, no doubt about it and i agree with that he is the prince of milan if not before the man city saga, he is probably loved even more now! :cool:

By the way peterswellman, the reason im going to assume people are picking xavi or gerrard over kaka is because kaka really is not a central midfielder. He plays second striker position for milan even though earlier in his career he was an attacking midfielder.

By the way, i agree, kaka as an individual is better than gerrard...but i do think gerrard is a top footballer too...though scholes when he was a little younger, besides keano showed him up more than a few times.

Just on a side note...kinda brings me back onto your topic about world class again...If the term is only used for players of the highest quality who are in top form, then last season kaka would NOT have been a world class player but we both know he is a world class player :cool:

Oh and by me saying i prefer kaka over gerrard is not me going against you or anything vavavooom because you're a kool dude and i aint someone who thinks i know it all or anything, i'm just givin' my opinion ;-)


My team!

-----------------Cassilas---------------

Maicon ----- Rio------ Vidic ------ Evra


-----------------Xavi-------------------

-------------------------Iniesta-------

-------------Kaka---------------------

----Messi--------------------------Ronaldo

-------------------Eto'o----------------



Explanation!...

Only reason i chose maicon ahead of alves OR ramos was because he is better at the defensive part of his game and has just as good a engine as the other two so in a team where there is not ball winner in midfield, the defense even in the fullback positions need to know how to defend!

I cannot believe NOBODY picked iniesta...one of the best creative midfielders in the world right now.

I think my team is pretty strong and would get loads of goals with ronaldo, messi and eto'o even though the two wingers roam alot and hardly track back. lol.

OH and i was temped to possibly put david villa in the team just behind eto'o instead of picking Kaka but i'm sure my mind will change every once in a while! :cool:

pz!
 
21 - 40 of 42 Posts
Top